I want to be very clear that we do not currently have a design for "unsolicited 
synchronization" in GRASP that works.

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/anima/31UnJbFe45FZF7u_YQHtJLe9Xv8/

Regards
   Brian

On 27-Oct-21 03:04, duzongp...@foxmail.com wrote:
Hi, Yizhou

     I have read the draft, and I think it is good to have a convince way to 
update the policies in the network.


     Also, I want to share some personal understandings here. If any 
misunderstandings, please correct me. Thanks.


     The AAPs need to inform the PEPs of the policies of the users by using the 
GRASP. It can happen when the user logs in, logs out, or triggers some policy 
changes.


     Maybe the first step is that the PEPs subscribe to the policy changing 
even that they are interested in.  Do they send some GRASP messages to AAPs 
here?


     And then, if the user logs in, logs out, or triggers some policy changes, 
the AAP informs the PEPs that have subscribed. GRASP is used here. Is it a 
multicast?

Best Regards
Zongpeng Du

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    *From:* Liyizhou <mailto:liyiz...@huawei.com>
    *Date:* 2021-10-25 17:04
    *To:* Anima@ietf.org <mailto:Anima@ietf.org>
    *CC:* Xun Xiao <mailto:xun.x...@huawei.com>
    *Subject:* [Anima] unsolicited synchronizaiton in 
draft-yizhou-anima-ip-to-access-control-groups-01.txt
    Hi all,
The Unsolicited Synchronization message (as defined in section 5.1 in draft-ietf-anima-grasp-distribution) is greatly leveraged in this document to allow the access authentication point to pass IP to Group mapping
info to policy enforcement point.
    That would make the information retrieval more efficient compared to 
request and reply (sync) mode.
    I guess a missing part is to a flag to be added to objective-flag, i.e.
           objective-flag = &(
             F_DISC: 0    ; valid for discovery
             F_NEG: 1     ; valid for negotiation
             F_SYNCH: 2   ; valid for synchronization
             F_NEG_DRY: 3 ; negotiation is a dry run
        F_UNSLC_SYNCH: 4 ; this
is a missing line to indicate valid for unsolicited synchronization
           )
Looks like the future grasp objectives would require to consider if
they are valid for unsolicited synchronization or not.
    Rgds,
    Yizhou
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