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• [Anima] 8366bis: can we include the idevid-issuer clarification section from cBRSKI? Esko Dijk
• [Anima] Cancelled event with note: BRSKI design team 2Q2022 @ Tue 2026-03-17 11:00 - 12:00 (EDT) ([email protected]) Michael Richardson
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-26.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] 8366bis: PR to clarify 'IETF YANG-SID modules registry' registration Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: 8366bis: PR to clarify 'IETF YANG-SID modules registry' registration Carsten Bormann
  • [Anima] Re: 8366bis: PR to clarify 'IETF YANG-SID modules registry' registration Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: 8366bis: PR to clarify 'IETF YANG-SID modules registry' registration Carsten Bormann
• [Anima] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-25 Sheng Jiang via Datatracker
• [Anima] [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC8995 (7263) RFC Errata System
• [Anima] [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC8995 (6648) RFC Errata System
• [Anima] Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-25.txt Michael Richardson
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-25.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-constrained-grasp-02.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-24.txt internet-drafts
  • [Anima] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-24.txt Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-24.txt Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-24.txt Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-24.txt Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-24.txt Michael Richardson
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-23.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-22.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] anima - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 125 IETF Meeting Session Request Tool
• [Anima] New Liaison Statement, "LS on consent of draft new Recommendation ITU-T Y.3064 (formerly Y.KM-AN) “Knowledge management for autonomous networks”" Liaison Statement Management Tool
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-21.txt internet-drafts
  • [Anima] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-21.txt Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-21.txt Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-21.txt Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-21.txt Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-21.txt Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-21.txt Esko Dijk
• [Anima] Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-20.txt Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-20.txt Fries, Steffen
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-20.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] Re-using the constrained Join Proxy solution defined by Thread Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: Re-using the constrained Join Proxy solution defined by Thread Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: Re-using the constrained Join Proxy solution defined by Thread Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: Re-using the constrained Join Proxy solution defined by Thread Michael Richardson
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-19.txt internet-drafts
  • [Anima] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-19.txt Michael Richardson
• [Anima] Comments on draft-ietf-anima-brski-discovery-09 Stuart Cheshire
  • [Anima] Re: Comments on draft-ietf-anima-brski-discovery-09 Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: Comments on draft-ietf-anima-brski-discovery-09 Brian E Carpenter
  • [Anima] Re: Comments on draft-ietf-anima-brski-discovery-09 Esko Dijk
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-18.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] Review of draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-17 Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: Review of draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-17 Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] removing choice code from RFC8366bis -- Re: Review of draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-17 Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: removing choice code from RFC8366bis -- Re: Review of draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-17 Toerless Eckert
  • [Anima] Re: removing choice code from RFC8366bis -- Re: Review of draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-17 Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: removing choice code from RFC8366bis -- Re: Review of draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-17 Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: removing choice code from RFC8366bis -- Re: Review of draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-17 Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: Review of draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-17 Michael Richardson
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-17.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-registrar-considerations-01.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-masa-considerations-01.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] ANIMA: Presenters, please upload your slides, anima@ietf124 Toerless Eckert
• [Anima] Re: I-D Action: draft-han-anima-grasp-congestion-relief-00.txt Brian E Carpenter
  • [Anima] Re: I-D Action: draft-han-anima-grasp-congestion-relief-00.txt 韩梦瑶(联通集团科技创新部)
• [Anima] Re: ANIMA@IETF124 - call for agenda items Longwei Zhu
  • [Anima] Re: ANIMA@IETF124 - call for agenda items Maojianwei (Mao)
  • [Anima] Re: ANIMA@IETF124 - call for agenda items Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: ANIMA@IETF124 - call for agenda items Maojianwei (Mao)
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-16.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-15.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-brski-discovery-09.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-brski-discovery-08.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-18.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-constrained-voucher-29.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] Result//Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th Sheng JIANG
  • [Anima] Re: Result//Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: Result//Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th Esko Dijk
• [Anima] anima - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 124 "IETF Secretariat"
• [Anima] ANIMA@IETF124 - call for agenda items Toerless Eckert
  • [Anima] Re: ANIMA@IETF124 - call for agenda items Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: ANIMA@IETF124 - call for agenda items Fries, Steffen
  • [Anima] Re: ANIMA@IETF124 - call for agenda items Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: ANIMA@IETF124 - call for agenda items 韩梦瑶(联通集团科技创新部)
  • [Anima] Re: ANIMA@IETF124 - call for agenda items Toerless Eckert
• [Anima] WGLC review of draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14 Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC review of draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14 Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC review of draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14 Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC review of draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14 Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC review of draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14 / Invite for a SID party Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC review of draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14 Michael Richardson
• [Anima] Re: [lamps] Re: EUF-CMA and CMS users, RFC8366bis Carl Wallace
  • [Anima] Re: [lamps] Re: EUF-CMA and CMS users, RFC8366bis Daniel Van Geest
  • [Anima] Re: [lamps] Re: EUF-CMA and CMS users, RFC8366bis Michael Richardson
• [Anima] EUF-CMA and CMS users, RFC8366bis Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: [lamps] EUF-CMA and CMS users, RFC8366bis Daniel Van Geest
  • [Anima] Re: [lamps] EUF-CMA and CMS users, RFC8366bis Michael Richardson
• [Anima] WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th Sheng JIANG
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Carsten Bormann
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Carsten Bormann
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Carsten Bormann
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Carsten Bormann
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions Brian E Carpenter
  • [Anima] Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-14, ends October 7th / 3 review questions William Atwood
• [Anima] Discovery optimization for Link Format: use the unspecified IPv6 address Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use the unspecified IPv6 address Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use the unspecified IPv6 address Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use the unspecified IPv6 address Brian E Carpenter
  • [Anima] Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use the unspecified IPv6 address Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use the unspecified IPv6 address Brian E Carpenter
  • [Anima] Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use the unspecified IPv6 address Toerless Eckert
  • [Anima] Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use the unspecified IPv6 address Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use the unspecified IPv6 address Brian E Carpenter
  • [Anima] Re: [core] Re: Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use the unspecified IPv6 address Christian Amsüss
  • [Anima] Re: [core] Re: Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use the unspecified IPv6 address Brian E Carpenter
  • [Anima] Discovery optimization for Link Format: use a hostname instead of an IP literal? Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use a hostname instead of an IP literal? Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use a hostname instead of an IP literal? Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] same.arpa ? Re: Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use a hostname instead of an IP literal? Toerless Eckert
  • [Anima] Re: same.arpa ? Re: Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use a hostname instead of an IP literal? Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: same.arpa ? Re: Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use a hostname instead of an IP literal? Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: same.arpa ? Re: Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use a hostname instead of an IP literal? Toerless Eckert
  • [Anima] Re: same.arpa ? Re: Re: Discovery optimization for Link Format: use a hostname instead of an IP literal? Michael Richardson
• [Anima] cBRSKI: clarify that CoRE Link Format links without URI path refer to the root resource Esko Dijk
• [Anima] Protocol Action: 'Bootstrapping Remote Secure Key Infrastructure (BRSKI) Cloud Registrar' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-19.txt) The IESG
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-19.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] Mike Bishop's No Objection on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-18: (with COMMENT) Mike Bishop via Datatracker
• [Anima] Deb Cooley's No Objection on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-18: (with COMMENT) Deb Cooley via Datatracker
• [Anima] Re: [IANA #1424344] IANA: early review for draft-ietf-anima-brski-discovery-07 Toerless Eckert
  • [Anima] Re: [IANA #1424344] IANA: early review for draft-ietf-anima-brski-discovery-07 Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] [IANA #1428744] Re: IANA: early review for draft-ietf-anima-brski-discovery-07 Amanda Baber via RT
  • [Anima] Re: [IANA #1428744] Re: IANA: early review for draft-ietf-anima-brski-discovery-07 Toerless Eckert
  • [Anima] [IANA #1428744] Re: IANA: early review for draft-ietf-anima-brski-discovery-07 Amanda Baber via RT
  • [Anima] IANA/Amanda: Reminder: [IANA #1424344] IANA: early review for draft-ietf-anima-brski-discovery-07 Toerless Eckert
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-18.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-17: (with COMMENT) Éric Vyncke via Datatracker
  • [Anima] Re: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-17: (with COMMENT) Owen Friel (ofriel)
  • [Anima] Re: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-17: (with COMMENT) Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
• [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-17.txt internet-drafts
• [Anima] anima - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 124 IETF Meeting Session Request Tool
• [Anima] Deb Cooley's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Deb Cooley via Datatracker
  • [Anima] Re: Deb Cooley's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: Deb Cooley's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Deb Cooley
  • [Anima] Re: Deb Cooley's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: Deb Cooley's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Deb Cooley
  • [Anima] Re: Deb Cooley's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Deb Cooley
  • [Anima] Re: Deb Cooley's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: Deb Cooley's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Deb Cooley
  • [Anima] Re: Deb Cooley's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Owen Friel (ofriel)
  • [Anima] Re: Deb Cooley's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Deb Cooley
  • [Anima] Re: Deb Cooley's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
  • [Anima] Re: Deb Cooley's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Deb Cooley
  • [Anima] Re: Deb Cooley's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
• [Anima] Gorry Fairhurst's No Objection on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with COMMENT) Gorry Fairhurst via Datatracker
  • [Anima] Re: Gorry Fairhurst's No Objection on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with COMMENT) Michael Richardson
• [Anima] Mike Bishop's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Mike Bishop via Datatracker
  • [Anima] Re: Mike Bishop's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-clou d-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: Mike Bishop's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-clou d-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: Mike Bishop's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-clou d-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Mike Bishop
  • [Anima] Re: Mike Bishop's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-clou d-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: Mike Bishop's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-clou d-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Mike Bishop
  • [Anima] Re: Mike Bishop's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-clou d-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: Mike Bishop's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-clou d-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Mike Bishop
  • [Anima] Re: Mike Bishop's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-clou d-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Owen Friel (ofriel)
  • [Anima] Re: Mike Bishop's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-clou d-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
  • [Anima] Re: Mike Bishop's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-clou d-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Mike Bishop
  • [Anima] Re: Mike Bishop's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-clou d-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
• [Anima] Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Éric Vyncke via Datatracker
  • [Anima] Re: Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
  • [Anima] Re: Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Michael Richardson
• [Anima] Mohamed Boucadair's No Objection on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with COMMENT) Mohamed Boucadair via Datatracker
  • [Anima] Re: Mohamed Boucadair's No Objection on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with COMMENT) Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
  • [Anima] Re: Mohamed Boucadair's No Objection on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with COMMENT) mohamed . boucadair
• [Anima] Gunter Van de Velde's No Objection on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with COMMENT) Gunter Van de Velde via Datatracker
  • [Anima] Re: Gunter Van de Velde's No Objection on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with COMMENT) Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: Gunter Van de Velde's No Objection on draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16: (with COMMENT) Gunter van de Velde (Nokia)
• [Anima] draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16 telechat Dnsdir review Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
  • [Anima] Re: draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16 telechat Dnsdir review Mahesh Jethanandani
  • [Anima] Re: draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16 telechat Dnsdir review Tim Wicinski
  • [Anima] Re: draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16 telechat Dnsdir review Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16 telechat Dnsdir review Tim Wicinski
  • [Anima] Re: draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16 telechat Dnsdir review Mahesh Jethanandani
  • [Anima] Re: draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16 telechat Dnsdir review Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16 telechat Dnsdir review Tim Wicinski
  • [Anima] Re: draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16 telechat Dnsdir review Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16 telechat Dnsdir review Tim Wicinski
  • [Anima] Re: draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16 telechat Dnsdir review Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: draft-ietf-anima-brski-cloud-16 telechat Dnsdir review Tim Wicinski
• [Anima] Re: [IPv6]"Sub-Link" (e.g. Ethernet segment) scoped IPv6 Multicast Michael Richardson
  • [Anima] Re: [IPv6]"Sub-Link" (e.g. Ethernet segment) scoped IPv6 Multicast Brian E Carpenter
• [Anima] New short Uri-Path option for ".well-known/something" ? Esko Dijk
  • [Anima] Re: New short Uri-Path option for ".well-known/something" ? Carsten Bormann
  • [Anima] Re: New short Uri-Path option for ".well-known/something" ? Michael Richardson

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