Hi, At 06:22 27/11/00 +0100, you wrote: >who isn't really fond of the idea to add jar files to the repository >either.
You may want to have a look at a message that Stefano Mazzocchi sent to cocoon-dev list on what it takes to be a successful free/open source software project. Basically it crystalized into three factors; 1. low cost of entry 2. good ideas 3. bad implementation Now have a look at the successful (meaning large active developer community) projects at apache and other places. Which ones have larger developer communities? Which ones end up evolving the most and being widely adopted. Ant has probably one of the largest user communities but relatively few developers. Mostly it is you and Connor that do development and if you were to leave the project would effectively be stymied for a bit (until someone else had an itch). Compare the projects Turbine, Cocoon and BSF. When I first looked at Turbine it was hell to setup. The second time I had a look it was much easier (Only DB setup was painful). Last time I looked it was a breeze to setup and strangely enough the community has grown considerably. Cocoon1 had a relatively low cost of entry and had a large community. With Cocoon2 the cost increased significantly and has continued to increase. Thus the developer community around it has declined a bit recently. BSF has a higher cost of entry and has good code - thus has only attracted a small community so far. Adding in required libs reduces cost of entry for developers of Ant which means more ideas/code hackery/time is likely to be contributed. This is the main aim of this. Cheers, Pete *-----------------------------------------------------* | "Faced with the choice between changing one's mind, | | and proving that there is no need to do so - almost | | everyone gets busy on the proof." | | - John Kenneth Galbraith | *-----------------------------------------------------*
