Dear working groups,

As you know all organisations that have internet number resources allocated or 
assigned by the RIPE NCC need to have an abuse-c attribute according to policy 
2011-06. The following implementation plan was communicated for this policy:

https://labs.ripe.net/Members/kranjbar/implementation-details-of-policy-2011-06

Phase 1 of this plan was completed in December 2013, setting up abuse-c for 
then existing LIRs. Phase 2 of this plan was completed for organisations 
holding sponsored PI resources in November 2014. However, since then LIRs and 
end-users have been responsible for ensuring that an abuse-c exists for their 
organisation. In practice it has proven difficult to enforce this, since 
abuse-c is not a mandatory attribute in the RIPE DB schema, and as a result new 
cases where organisations do not have an abuse contact have been created.

There is an important change in the implementation we would like to do – based 
on our experiences thus far – which would like the community's mandate on. We 
propose to use the end-user organisation's email address instead of the 
sponsoring LIR email address. We believe there are valid reasons for this 
change, but of course if this suggested change is controversial we would 
encourage discussing it in the anti-abuse working group. Ideally, we need to 
have a decision on this by early January so that we can prepare the work.


1) Prevent NEW cases

We want to ensure that no new cases will be created as follows:

= Since 1 March, the new member application form already provides much better 
integration with the RIPE Database
  - because of this an abuse contact is now created whenever a new LIR is 
activated
  - it can be modified the LIR, e.g. using web-updates, but not removed

= We are currently adapting the new create organisation webupdates form to 
include abuse-c by default allowing the user to:
  - reference an existing abuse-c role object, or
  - enter an email address to create an abuse-c role for the organisation 
(using the same maintainer)

= We are also adapting the edit organisation webupdates form to always suggest 
adding an abuse-c contact if it's not present

= We plan to extend the new request forms:
  - check that an end-user organisation has abuse-c before it can be used
  - if not, refer to the edit form for the organisation where it will be easy 
to add reference an existing abuse contact, or create a new object

2) Resolve remaining EXISTING cases

Originally the idea for phase 2 was to use the sponsoring LIR's email address 
in case the end-user organisation was unresponsive to requests to set their own 
abuse contact. However, since then policy 2012-08 has been implemented and 
nowadays the sponsoring LIR, and its abuse contact, can be found through the 
sponsoring-org attribute. 

Also, the RIPE NCC found that using the sponsoring organisation's email address 
leads to a number of issues:

- end-users have no incentive to set their own abuse-c, rather then letting 
abuse questions go to their sponsor, so the majority remains unresponsive
- in case an end-user has resources from more than one sponsor it is ambiguous 
which sponsor's email should be used
- many LIRs were unpleasantly surprised by finding their email address in the 
abuse-c of the organisation they sponsor
- in case LIRs no longer wish to sponsor resources, or when they are returned, 
existing references to their email in the end-user abuse-c are not cleaned up

We would therefore like to propose a change to the implementation plan when 
addressing the remaining cases. Today, in case no abuse contact is set, users 
of the database will resort to using the organisation's default email. 
Therefore, adding a dedicated abuse-c role object using this email address, 
doesn't cause any noticeable new effects on organisations. It may well be the 
correct email address to use for an organisation, and no action would be 
required. However, it *enables* an organisation to use a different email 
address for abuse questions if appropriate.

We would like to email remaining LIRs, and end-user organisations and 
sponsoring LIRs on Monday 1 February, giving them until Monday 15 February to 
set their abuse contact. We realise that this means we would have another 
delay, but we believe that it would be unwise to do this change over the end of 
year holiday period, and to ensure that we can give proper support to questions 
we want to avoid doing this at the same time as the start of the year invoicing.

Please let us know what you think.

Kind regards,

Tim Bruijnzeels
Assistant Manager Software Engineering
RIPE NCC Database Group



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