I apologize to everyone for the fact that I haven't been able to
get time today to weigh in on all of the back and forth that's
been generated by my post about verified.is.  Everyone who knows
me knows that I have strong feelings about pretty much everything
that has been said, and that I'me never shy about expressing those
opinions, but it has been a long, hard, and exhausting day.  I have
been trying to work on several things simultaneously.  It is now
past 3 AM here where I am, and I'm off to bed at last.  I hope to
reply here to some of the things that have been said tomorrow.

But before I turn in, I feel compelled to seek a bit more infomation
about the fundamental RIPE Charter.

I thank Brian for directing me at the following document, which seems
to be a kind of overall Charter of RIPE:

   https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-001

That is indeed enlightening, and quite helpful, but I feel the need to
press further and ask if there is also and additionally some other
Charter document elsewhere.

I've read on the Ripe.Net site that RIPE is formally constituted as
a formal "association" under Dutch law.  Where I come from, we call
these kinds of things "non-profit corporations" and each
one must file a document called "Articles of Incorporation" with the
state in which they are formed.  These Articles of Incorporation must
clearly specify the purposes for which the entity is formed.

Does there exist a similar sort of formal document which has been filed
by RIPE, on its own behalf, with Dutch authorities?  If so, I would
like to be able to peruse that also as I prepare myself for drafting
a propposal... hopefully one which will not conflict in any way with
either the letter or the spirit of *any* of RIPEs fundamental founding
documents, as ammended.

Lastly, I must ask the question:  What is RIPE NCC, exactly?  Is it a
formal organ which is itself chartered strictly and only under the
auspices and authority of RIPE itself?  Or is it, in any sense, an
autonomous entity which is in some ways (or perhaps in all ways) NOT
bound to obey and/or show total fealty to the Charter of RIPE itself,
e.g. as embodied in ripe-001 and/or any such other documents which
together consitute RIPE's formal Charter?

I beg everyone's patience with me for asking these questions here.  I do
understand that many, most or all subscribers here may deride me for
asking about things that are arguably "off topic".  But to be frank,
I don't think they are off topic at all.  The work of this WG, such as
it is, must live within the confines of the Charter of RIPE itself.
Certainly for me, and I suspect also for other members of this WG,
a proper review of, and respect for the fundamental tenents of RIPE
itself must guide the work ahead, whatever it may be.


Regards,
rfg

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