their entire concept of thinking is deliberately wrong... ip addresses do NOT identify people. so blacklists, will never work, especially not if you list half hte rest of the internet with that, to extort into disconnection, after which, the client simply moves elsewhere. doh.

On 30 ينا, 2017 م 01:37, ox wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:19:32 +0000
HRH Prince Sven Olaf von CyberBunker <sv...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
as for smtp being alive.. out of 4 billion ips some 200k run an smtp
server... still a lot more than ftp (including badly configured
printers and security cameras).. but considering it's a protocol that
was supposed to run on each and every workstation. it's dead.

facebook has more users per second than smtp has mails per year. lol.

https://zephoria.com/top-15-valuable-facebook-statistics/
statistics, facts (after they happened) are so crazy, lol

In 2015, the number of emails sent and received per day total over 205
billion...

in 2016 email/smtp = +8% lol

and 2017 - looks to be even more hectic.  - smtp maybe closer to 300
billion (per day) or 109 Trillion emails per year...lol

by 2020 we may be at 1000 trillion emails...

how many users does facebook have per day. lol

On 30 ينا, 2017 م 01:13, ox wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:01:46 +0000
HRH Prince Sven Olaf von CyberBunker <sv...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
no not all dnsbls are a problem. none of the other ones block
non-directly related prefixes as a means of extortion into complete
breach of contract. there are some 110 of them last time we
checked. we only were on the 2 operated by spamhaus. :P
so by far... pretty much all dnsbl's list the ips that originate
the 'undesired' traffic, which stops it from
reaching those that use their service, and that's where it ends for
them... that's perfectly acceptable.
(as long as it's the actual end user making the decision to use
their 'filtering' or not)

Okay, got it, thank you for that

howeverrrrr... then there is spamhaus...

yeah, but it will show good manners if you make a new thread about
that?
as for the ripe mailinglist being smtp... yes. it unfortunately
still is.. and it's about the ONLY thing that still needs smtp,
next to signing up to habbo hotel. lol. i haven't started the mail
client for anything else in years. lol. face it: smtp is dead, the
reason it is dead: is spamhaus itself. making it unreliable.
mainly.

we will have to agree to disagree (or not agree - with the same
result :) )

smtp - 2017 my pov (and own stats) There has never been so much
legit traffic sent ever...

Easy to check though as everyone on here has their own stats and to
quickly analize 25 vs say 80 (wow - and 443 is just as crazy in
terms of growth as 25!)  in 2015 as compared to 2016 - smtp is
alive and kicking (so is 443!)

Andre




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