Earlier versions of the proposed policy had language that some people took to mean that removing resources etc., was a possible escalation. I don't think it was originally the intent, though personally I can see merit in it being an escalation path.
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 On 09/03/2019, 06:46, "anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Shane Kerr" <anti-abuse-wg-boun...@ripe.net on behalf of sh...@time-travellers.org> wrote: Fi Shing, As far as I know there is nothing in any policy about decommissioning resources. (I'm not even sure what that would mean in practice...) I don't think that such a proposal would get consensus in the RIPE community, but I am often wrong so if you want this then please submit a policy proposal. The RIPE NCC staff, the working group chairs, or some friendly community member can help you with this. Cheers, -- Shane On 08/03/2019 22.25, Fi Shing wrote: > /But Marco's response mentions to *correcting* the contact addresses, not > just verifying them. That involves working with human beings, so it > makes sense that it will take a while./ > / > / > No it doesn't - that was the whole point of the "change" in the first > place, that it was to reduce the amount of verification needed to be > done by RIPE. There is a simple automated way to verify the entries - > click a link, enter a CAPTCHA, or your resources are decommissioned > within 24 hours. > > How much crime can be committed in the months it has taken (and > continues to take)? > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ? > From: Shane Kerr <sh...@time-travellers.org > <mailto:sh...@time-travellers.org>> > Date: Fri, March 08, 2019 9:40 pm > To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> > > Fi Shing, > > I'm sure verifying the delivery of 70k e-mails (or however many is in > the database) can be done in a few hours. > > But Marco's response mentions to *correcting* the contact addresses, > not > just verifying them. That involves working with human beings, so it > makes sense that it will take a while. > > Cheers, > > -- > Shane > > On 08/03/2019 11.07, Fi Shing wrote: > > If it takes more than a week to verify your entire database, there is > > the first sign that something is wrong with your system. > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ? > > From: Marco Schmidt <mschm...@ripe.net <mailto:mschm...@ripe.net> > ><mailto:mschm...@ripe.net>> > > Date: Thu, March 07, 2019 10:03 pm > > To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <r...@tristatelogic.com <mailto:r...@tristatelogic.com> > > <mailto:r...@tristatelogic.com>>, > > anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> > <mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> > > > > Hello Ronald, > > > > We are planning to publish an updated timeline soon. > > > > Ultimately, our implementation will depend of the level of cooperation > > we get from LIRs and the nature of issues that need to be fixed before > > an abuse contact can be updated (for example, some organisations may > > need to reset their maintainer password). > > > > Over the next few weeks we will be analysing our progress, to make a > > realistic estimation. From observations so far, we think we might be > > able to finish our initial validation of all abuse contacts within six > > months - but it is still too early to make any strong predictions. > > > > Kind regards, > > Marco Schmidt > > RIPE NCC > > > > > > On 05/03/2019 21:51, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > > In message <9c95c110-d5a3-e94a-6b3c-b02030736...@ripe.net > <mailto:9c95c110-d5a3-e94a-6b3c-b02030736...@ripe.net> > > <mailto:9c95c110-d5a3-e94a-6b3c-b02030736...@ripe.net>>, > > > Marco Schmidt <mschm...@ripe.net <mailto:mschm...@ripe.net> > ><mailto:mschm...@ripe.net>> wrote: > > > > > >> It is correct that the implementation phase is still ongoing. Currently > > >> we are validating all the abuse contact information referenced in LIR > > >> organisation objects. Then we will proceed with the validation of abuse > > >> contacts referenced in LIR resource objects - the example that you > > >> mentioned belongs to this group. And finally all abuse contacts > > >> referenced in End User (sponsored) objects will be validated. > > > Thanks for the info Marco. > > > > > > I guess the only question I would ask is this: Is there a published > > > timeline for how this whole process is planned to play out, and for > > > when it is planned to be completed? > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > rfg > > > > > > > > >
