Hi,
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019, Richard Clayton wrote:
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019, Richard Clayton wrote:
... I am aware of peer pressure (literally), action by IXPs, action by
organisations providing reputation scores and even action by hosting
companies.
Yes, i'm aware of that too. Sometimes it fixes specific hijacks, but does
it stop or in anyway cause a delay for hijackers to hop onto the next
hijack...???
All of examples I gave come from my experience in putting a stop to
various actors hijacking address space. Now it may be that the same
actors have come back and found another completely different hosting
company to carry their hijacks -- but getting them to start again from
scratch has always looked like a win to me.
It's also a win in my dictionary. :-)))
But didn't you see any cases where the hijacker was the hosting company
itself?
In particular there is nothing like being thrown off an IXP for putting
a crimp in your operations. There's real money involved.
With my IXP hat on, i can say that removing a member is not something the
IXP will do lightly.
I advised you before to give up on getting RIPE to develop a completely
new approach to tackling abuse (especially since it really is not going
all that well) -- and instead to put your effort into getting IXPs to
develop robust policies in this space. After all IXPs and routing are a
far better fit that an RIR and routing.
I agree IXPs are important. However the RIRs can be useful at a larger
scale...
hijacks are reported in numerous places, the NANOG mailing list springs
immediately to mind -- and posting there is certainly easy
Yes i'm aware about it, but is that the (globally?) de-facto place for
raising anyone's attention to an hijack or an hijacker operation?
it's not ideal from a global perspective, but it is certainly the de-
facto place at the moment
Hmmmm. Perhaps we should look at how many hijack reports get there per
year...
Thanks,
Carlos
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richard Richard Clayton
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin 11 Nov 1755
