On Thu, 18 Apr 2019, Richard Clayton wrote:
Hard to tell in some cases whether the people running the hosting
company were merely in league with the hijackers or the hijackers
themselves. Only a court would care about the difference -- the
practical view is that it just means that action needs to be taken by
peers or by an IXP (or both)
Even harder is having a court decision about such a matter.
and rightly so ... and in my experience (you really should note the
people here with experience) they want to gather their own evidence and
form their own judgment before doing something so significant. That's
why your proposal for RIPE NCC being forced to act by a semi-detached
panel of experts is so deeply flawed.
Why "semi-detached"? They must be impartial to start with.
I agree IXPs are important. However the RIRs can be useful at a larger scale...
you have no evidence for that -- you are just hoping that they will be
One IXP can show a bad actor the door.
The RIR, by revoking an ASN number (if it gets to that) can make the bad
actor lose the main technical requirement to be part of most IXPs.
That said, *if* this happens, it's not a company shutdown, but the company
will need a new ASN number, at least to keep its operation in several
IXPs.
Again, without an ASN, company operation would still be possible (outside
IXP environment), resorting even to a single upstream.
Carlos
