I'm completely with you.

For our US-AS i verify my contact once a year: open the mail, click the
link, verify my data and that's it. You don't even need 5 minutes for it.

If you have an automation fpr your abuse mails? Ok, you have to adjust
your configuration a little bit but you have to do this only once. Is it
really a problem?

RIPE NCC will not deregister your ressources right now just because you
missed the verification.

I would be happy if we have a mandatory abuse-c which is validated by
the RIPE.

Rather go forward step-by-step than stop here for years. Stagnation
means regression.

Have a good night,

Andi

Am 16.01.20 um 09:41 schrieb Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg:
> Hi All
>
> I think we already spent way more executive time on this thread than it
> would cost us to verify e-mail addresses.
>
> I agree e-mail does not solve all the problems. It's hard to
> automatically process, .....
>
> But it is simple to use, and from my work as an incident handler it did
> do me good in the past. I participate in fora that validate
> abuse/emergency addresses. WHen I ask these people what their issues in
> daily life are it's never we have to validate or contact e-mail.
>
>
> And honestly: taking a step back and reading this entire thread, I'm not
> surprised that the bad guys are winning. You know: They don't care about
> the purty and beauty of a solution. They just do it and profit, and
> probably have a fabulous time seeing us argue and go at each others
> throats.
>
> I think we could do better.
>
> Best
> Serge

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