Hi All

Michele, I think this is a great idea. It would probably make sense to liaise with https://www.m3aawg.org/ and FIRST (tha latter would be me ;-) and I can broker an intro to the M3AAWG peoples. Not also, that FIRST has a "DNS Abuse SIG", that focuses on domain related abuse, but in a wide sense. I'm sure that work could be extended to cover IP abuse.

And before we start our usual skirmishes: The fist step the group did was to come up with a taxonomy, so that we all speak of the same. A second step will then be suggestions on how to mitigate this. If we feel something like this would be of value for "IP abuse" I'm happy to help set up a FIRST SIG, so we cover the world, and not just RIPE. But irrespective of this, I think some training courses would be awesome.

I'd be super happy to help.

Best
Serge

On 18/10/2021 18:40, Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg wrote:
Brian

I missed earlier emails about this.

I think it would be beneficial for a lot of LIRs to get some basic training.

Anything that improves the landscape should be encouraged and welcomed!

 1. Would training, as described, be of interest to you?

Potentially for new staff if the materials were available ie. As a resource

 2. Would training, as described, be of interest to other LIRs you know
    of/work with?

I don’t know of any specifically, but that’s down to my role.

3) If not, would there be other areas of Anti-Abuse training that would be of interest?

A lot of hosting providers aren’t LIRs, but are getting IP space from LIRs. Maybe providing materials that LIRs could share with their clients would help? There  seems to be a lot of ignorance out there.

4) Would you be willing to help write training materials for this course?
I don’t have time to produce materials but I’d be happy to review same.

Regards


Michele

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Colleagues,

As you may remember the WG Co-Chairs have been talking to the NCC about some possible Anti-Abuse training in March of this year.

This proposal got very little reaction from the community, so we are going to try again to see if there is interest, or if people who are already on this mailing list believe that there would be interest from other LIRs that they know.

I have re-attached the proposal that Alireza sent to the mailing list in March.

Between now and RIPE 83 (when this matter will be on the WG session agenda) I would ask the following questions:

1) Would training, as described, be of interest to you?

2) Would training, as described, be of interest to other LIRs you know of/work with?

3) If not, would there be other areas of Anti-Abuse training that would be of interest?

4) Would you be willing to help write training materials for this course?

After the list discussion and discussion at RIPE 83 the Co-Chairs will work with the NCC Learning & Development Team to decide if there is enough interest to develop the course and, if there is, how to proceed from there.

We really do believe this is something that would be of interest to a large number of small LIRs in the region, but that's not something we can really determine without the help of the WG

Thank you,

Brian
Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG

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