Greetings,

Maybe we need a bulletproof hosting directory on the web? :-))

From what i've learned, illegal content depends on jurisdiction, and
effectively that's what greatly impacts the possibility of takedowns.

I've also seen what you mention about advertising services as 'bulletproof', but i've already seen some of those companies remove that kind of advertising (in this case, web archives are your friend!)

The RIPE NCC, afaik, doesn't act on illegal content, because it lacks any mandate for that.

In the same way criminals are able to use phones, they are allowed to use IP addresses. The downside with the IP addresses is they can in practice build/manage (informal?) network operators, which provide them with a lot more flexibility. But that's the model we have had for decades...

I totally agree with the ICANN comparison, but it wouldn't be only RIPE NCC, for efectiveness you would have to have all the five RIRs on the same page.

But i'm afraid "the community" -- which also includes the 'bulletproofers' -- will not issue any mandate to the RIPE NCC to do something. Instead, at some point, we well see more regulatory stuff kicking in........


Best Regards,
Carlos



On Wed, 17 Jan 2024, OSINTGuardian wrote:

hi,

There are more and more bulletproof hosting in the world every month and they 
are causing more and more chaos, feeding the dark web by
providing servers to criminals of all kinds who use the servers on .onion 
websites in Tor and flooding the clear web with illegal
content.

There is a bulletproof hosting market that is even openly promoted, it is as 
easy to find companies that provide bulletproof servers as
searching on Google, hacker forums or simple internet websites that provide 
lists of bulletproof hosting companies.

The business model of these companies is to ignore reports of abuse of illegal 
content, to look the other way when someone uploads
illegal content. This is openly their business model, what does RIPE NCC do 
about this?

RIPE NCC provides IP addresses to many of these companies with bulletproof 
servers that are then used by criminals on the Internet,
strengthening organized crime. 

ICANN publicly has an abuse reporting form, where users can report if a company 
provides bulletproof domains or ignores abuse reports.
If RIPE NCC did this same thing, the internet would become a better place.

If RIPE NCC did this and also other IP address accreditors, they would greatly 
affect criminals on the Internet and therefore the
Internet would become a slightly safer place than it is today. Bulletproof 
server companies would be afraid of being caught by RIPE NCC
committing these violations. Unfortunately, these companies currently feel 
enough freedom to do this, that they even show themselves
publicly.

Is RIPE NCC planning to do anything against this?

- Claudia Lopez
OSINTGuardian

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