Hi Randy

Agreed and I'm not saying we should just hand everything over on a gold plate 
to LE. Bien we cannot just say no all the time, but should actually come up 
with solutions we feel are good or a good compromise.

I expect LE to understand our issues, but we should understand theirs 

Best
Serge

On 10 April 2024 16:25:26 UTC, Randy Bush <ra...@psg.com> wrote:
>> In a recent talk Jane Easterly said: "The private sector has promised
>> better security for yeas but has not delivered. This has to change".
>
>was this not in the context of software and platform safety?  easterly
>has been riding that hobby horse for a few years, and with serious
>justification.
>
>but i agree that the RIRs could be clearer in what they can and can not
>do for LE.  and there needs to be a balance of visibility and privacy.
>LE is always gonna want more; that's their job, and we need them.  but,
>as jeff schiller said (in the ietf protocol design context) "Law
>enforcement was not supposed to be easy.  Where it is easy, it's called
>a police state."
>
>randy
>
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