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"RIM"-Pobly fwds "11.09 *NO* Bush conspiracy" article
[23.06.02]
Recently, there appeared on the ANTI-NATO mailing list an
article which went out of its way to "argue" that "NO, the
infamous terror attacks on 11 September 2001 were NOT, as
more and more people are saying today, the work of the US
imperialists themselves, aimed at hitting back against the
people in the USA and in the whole world, whose resistance
they so more and more desperately fear."
The article, entitled "September 11th: Conspiracy-itis" was
written by one Marty Jezer. It was forwarded to the ANTI-
NATO list by Miroslav Antic, who often has forwarded, with-
out comments of his own, various articles, some by revolu-
tionary-minded people and some by hack writers of US impe-
rialism and other reactionaries too.
This particular article in itself was yawningly uninteres-
ting. All who had followed events even in an approximate
way and had seen a few of all those facts which very clearly
point to the actual perpetrators of 11.09.2001 could easily
tell: Here's another stupid attempt by those mass murderers
the Bushmen and Bushwomen to prevent the truth from becoming
apparent to precisely everybody on this planet.
But one really interesting thing in this connection, in my opinion,
is the fact that one writer, poblachtach dearg <poblachtach_
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, whose main activity has consisted of
making propaganda for that "International" the "RIM" and
for its politically leading party, the "RCP"-USA, forwarded
that silly "please-no-conspiracy-theories-on-this!" article
again, and likewise with no comments of his own - thus pre-
senting it as "containing something sensible"! - to a whole
number of other mailing lists!
Since the "RIM" and the "RCP"-USA are saying that they stand
for the political line of Marx, Lenin and Mao Zedong, and
often in various contexts seem to be *attacking*, not least,
the US imperialists, is it not very surprising that one of
the propagandists - even the main propagandist today, as far
as Internet mailing lists are concerned - precisely of those
*very* rrrevolutionary entities wants to convince everybody
that "NO, the Bushmen and Bushwomen were NOT behind 11.09"?
Actually, the "RCP"-USA had already done this itself some-
what earlier too, with a "big interview" in January 2002
with its illustrious chairman, Bob Avakian, likewise posted
to a number of mailing lists, rather recently, by that same
"RIM"/"RCP"-USA propagandists, Pobly. Precisely the "main
point" of that interview was its attempt to convince all of
the "innocence" of the US imperialists of 11.09.2001.
Now why are *those* people - precisely the ones who would be
"on the alert" most of all, as *Marxists*, as *revolutiona-
ries* based not least *in that very country*, the USA, con-
cerning precisely such events, precisely the ones who would
be the *least* liable to be decieved by the stupid "offi-
cial" propaganda concerning these mass murder terror attacks
in the USA - among those who are saying "NO conspiracy by
the US imperialists"?
It's very puzzling, isn't it?
I mean, when a party or other organization *says* it's revo-
lutionary, when it says it represents the line of Marx, Lenin
and Mao Zedong, when it says it strives to represent the com-
mon interests of the vast majority of people on earth, then
one should always take that party's or other organization's
word for that, should one not?
I mean, harbouring suspicions that it might actually be the
puppet of some quite other forces, some considerably less
nice ones, for instance, that's being very distrustful and
counter-productive.
The very introduction lines of one of those mailing lists
to which Pobly forwarded that article, the "Maoist_Guns"
mailing list, a recently created new one, quite rightly
say, among other things:
'Provocateurs and the like NOT discussing / posting
Maoist propaganda and struggles of the Oppressed
will be banned, especially if refering to People`s
Real names and labelling individuals as CIA etc.'
And some provocaterurs' labelling some *very* Maoist *orga-
nizations* as "CIA etc", that of course is even worse.
The intro lines of the "Maoist_Guns" also say, concerning
what kind of postings would, and should, appear on that list:
'Postings from the Maoist press, wheather [sic] from
the Revolutionary Internationalist Movement [i.e.,
the "RIM"], Revolutionary worker [the newspaper of
the "RCP"-USA], A World To Win [magazine "inspired by"
the "RIM"], Maoist Internationalist Movement [one
other "International", likewised based in the USA,
the "MIM"] etc is greatly encouraged to inspire
debate as part of the "Unity, Struggle, Unity, Trans-
formation" process.'
So here it becomes clear, once more, that all of those enti-
ties of course *are* Marxist, "Maoist" ones.
So who can doubt the revolutionary credentials of Pobly? At
least, when posting to that "Maoist_Guns" list?
I think we must all agree that the reason for his forwarding,
uncommented-on too, the below, that will remain a big puzzle.
Unless of course he himself steps forward to explain it.
And if he does, all must be warned: Doubting the word of
such a "Maoist_Guns" *big shot* as Pobly, that would be very
un-gentlemanly (respectively, un-ladylike).
Rolf M.
Malmö, Sweden
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Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 19:12:35 +0100 (BST)
Subject: September 11th: Conspiracy-itis
Miroslav Antic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Published on Friday, June 21, 2002 by CommonDreams.org
September 11th: Conspiracy-itis
by Marty Jezer
I wanted to begin this column by saying that people who view
politics through a filter of conspiracy are ignorant of
history and how the world works, probably paranoid, and
certainly intellectually lazy. Alas, some conspiracies really
exist.
For example, take the Kennedy assassination. Though Oliver
Stone in his film “JFK” got the conspiracy angle wrong (he
blamed it, using flimsy evidence, on Lyndon Johnson), there
is overwhelming documentation linking Lee Harvey Oswald to an
eccentric New Orleans-based airplane pilot named David Ferrie.
Ferrie worked for Mafia boss Carlos Marcello and ran guns to
anti-Castro Cubans. The Mafia, which ran the gambling,
prostitution and drug concessions in Havana before Castro
sent them packing, like the right-wing Cubans, had a motive
to get rid of Kennedy. JFK, after the failure of the Bay of
Pigs, had no taste for another Cuban invasion.
The Mafia/anti-Castro “who-shot-Kennedy” theory is backed by
documented facts and transparent motives. Most conspiracy
theories consist of isolated, and often unverifiable, facts,
mixed indiscriminately with gossip, innuendo, half-truths,
and found-documents that exist outside of any meaningful
context. Most conspiracy theories are based on the hatred of
one political group for another. When an atrocity happens,
conspiracists construct a case in order to pin the blame on
their rivals.
Such is the origin of the conspiracy theories, now flooding
the internet, which attempt to link George W. Bush to the
9-11 terrorist bombings. Like the right-wing crazies who
believe that the U.N. controls America and Bill Clinton
killed Vince Foster, conspiracists on the fringe of the left
believe that George W. Bush is responsible for the September
11 attacks. They believe he orchestrated the attacks on the
World Trade Center and the Pentagon in order to create a
climate of fear so he could suspend civil liberties, stifle
dissent, and then go to war to make Afghanistan safe for U.S.
energy companies to build an oil pipeline.
To give the conspiracists credit, they are demon researchers,
single-minded in tracking down every shred of information
that might bolster their theory. What they lack is an ability
(or desire) to evaluate evidence and place it into a real-
world context. They can’t see the forest for the trees and
can’t distinguish popple from a sturdy oak. Conspiracists see
the world through their own mind-set. To conspiracists,
everything has meaning, everything happens according to plan.
But the world doesn’t work that way. People screw up. Egos
and rivalry cause chaos. Organizations have conflicting
agendas. The FBI and CIA really don’t talk to each other and
aren’t very good at evaluating raw intelligence data. That’s
life!
[Etc, etc]
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