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Egyptian Satellite Channel interviews the Leader of the Revolution Cairo The Egyptian satellite channel has conducted an interview this morning with the Leader of the Revolution to which it dedicated its daily morning programme, Good Morning Egypt. The interview was transmitted live and direct. The Leader of the Revolution analysed a number of issues of concern to the Arab homeland especially the critical situation facing the Arab region, in the light of the American threat to attack the Iraqi people, the daily massacres of the Palesitnian people at the hands of the Zionist terrorist army organisation. Regarding his participation in the recent Arab summit in Sharm al Sheikh the Leader confirmed that this is a critical situation and all Arabs have to participate in countering the crisis even though he is sceptical about the use of Arab summits which do not produce any decisive results. It is possible for the masses and the Arab street to decide the issue. But the formal Arab order is known for its limited abilities according to the facts. Despite all this I have attended even though I am not a president and not a king. I am a leader of a revolution and my presence was in response to the invitation of my brother, President Hosni Mubarak to stand by his side, particularly as I noticed that there is some speculation against Egypt that undermine its efforts for all that we contributed towards the conclusion of the conference in a positive way which is the minimum we can do. Regarding the relationship between Arab states, the leader revealed that he has always been insisting that relations between one country and another must never be cut in times of war in order to provide channels of contact between belligerants. /Jamahiriya news agency / Jana/2 Egyptian satellite channel interviews the leader (first addendum) In respect to the Great Jamahiriya's withdrawal from the Arab League the leader revealed that this stance is nothing new as Libya has already presented a formal request to the Arab League for withdrawal especially after the African Union summit. Libya is an African country like any other country on the continent. What happened in Sharm al Sheikh made everyone stand by Libya and say that Libya repsects itself, is serious and has the right to withdraw from the Arab League. In respect of ways to end the Iraqi crisis peacefully the leader confirmed Iraq did all that was requested from it and everything was inspected. Therefore what more is requested from Iraq. It has been noted that the brothers in the Gulf are not happy about Iraq's existance in this way as they say Iraq is still threatening their security and they act on the basis that Iraq's invasion of Kuwait was shocking for all of us as it came without any warning. If Iraq occupied an disputed oil field it would have been reasonable and if it threatened Kuwait even if it blocked its access to the sea and asked for compensation that would have been accepted. But the invasion of a state,obliterating its existance and annexing it is quite absurd. Our brothers in Kuwait see they are in danger and they are not assured as they could be invaded once again despite all the bombing and destruction in Iraq. For the Kuwaitis, Iraq is still the same. What I discovered now is that there is no problem between America and Iraq. I discovered that the problem is an Arab -Arab. I have informed my brother al sheikh Sabah al Ahmed that the key is in Kuwait's hand. It could tell America that we have reconciled with each other and there is no danger facing us and we have changed our view. Therefore America will stop all its military measures against Iraq. But he said he could not say so because they are not feeling safe in Kuwait. They are still threatened by Iraq and they could not deny facilities for American troops or prevent their forces in the Gulf from launching war on Iraq as these forces are basically present there at their request, considering they are allies and friends of America and have a joint defense pact. The leader revealed that this comes in the absence of Arab unity and the absence of joint Arab action or Arab effectiveness that protects Kuwait or Iraq. Such a vacuum made the foreign troops enter and replace the Arabs and the foreigners are acting in respect of our nation and our bilateral Arab relations. We are unable to reorganise our house from within even if the foreigners come and start working inside our house. The leader questioned who mandated America and Britain to disarm Iraq or any other country. In this respect he revealed that from the legal point of view the United Nations charter and international law do not commission America and Britain to do so, except in case of disarming all weapons of mass destruction from all countries possessing such weapons. In this case Iraq could be disarmed by force if it refused to do so. America knows it is not commissioned to disarm Iraq or any other country. Therefore America finds a justification to do so when the Arabs ask it to do so. America is only one member of the United Nations and has no right to disarm any country except through an international resolution commissioning its to use its forces. But his is supposed to be done by other international forces in UN uniforms and UN sponsorship. /Jamahiriya news agency / Jana/3 Egyptian satellite channel interviews the Leader of the revolution Cairo (Second addendum) Regarding his vision for the solution of the Palestinian cause, the Leader of the Revolution indicated that he presented to the Amman summit a vision for the resolution of the issue. He confirmed that this solution will impose itself even if there is prevarication or flouting in this respect. The situation does not bear the presence of two states in Palestine. The radical solution for the case is the establishment of one state for the Jews and the Palestinians and that elections are to be sponsored for the first time by the United Nations and without that there will no solution to the case. Regarding the efforts of the leader of the revolution to establish the African Union and what could be achieved for Africa in the light of this union the leader confirmed that the great African Union was established on a highly significant facts in Africa which is a compatible continent living like one nation which is the black nation, consisting of several tribes, contrary to the European continent which consists of numerous nations. He revealed that the conflicts witnessed in some areas of the continent are a result of colonisation which transformed the African tribes into states and severed the links between these African tribes and between the states and now these ties are reemerging to eliminate all past conflicts. He confirmed that Africa has a bright promising future and in the near future it will be as strong as the United States due to its potentials and resources and due to the seriousness and commitment of Africans. /Jamahiriya news agency / Jana/4 Egyptian satellite channel interviews the Leader (Third addendum) Cairo In respect of relations between the Great Jamahiriya and Egypt, the Leader of the Revolution described the climate prevailing between them as brotherly and transparant. He called for the need to benefit from this climate for the future of the two countries and the consolidation of their relations more and more, especially in investment in roads, railways, gas, oil and fisheries along the coast of the two countries. He stressed the need to eliminate all obstacles faced by investors in both countries to ensure the investment of profits gained in the country of investment and receiving equal treatment in the same way as national citizens. In respect of the Arab common market and the prospects of taking effective steps to achieve Arab unity, the leader of the revolution indicated that he had already presented a draft project to amend the charter of the Arab League and a legal committee was formed to change the charter of the league and transform it into an Arab Union with mechanisms and structures including the summetry, ministers' council, specialised technical committees, courts of justice, the central bank, national security and peace council and an Arab Defense Council. The leader noted that through such structures an Arab Security Council can be established to handle Arab problems without any foreign intervention and there will be a joint defense committee to ensure the defense of the Arab area in addition to a central bank and a monetary fund. We could also issue a single currency in case the currencies are unified in line with the economic unity council laid down since 1957 which is yet to be implemented. /Jamahiriya news agency / Jana/5 Egyptian satellite channel interviews the Leader Cairo / 5 al Rabia/ Jana (Fourth addendum) Regarding his visions for the ramifications of the Iraqi issue and war on the Arab nation, the Leader of the Revolution confirmed that this war is not only against the Arab nation. He indicated that if America triumphed over Iraq this is something normal as it is a super power that defeated one of the third world countries. He indicated that at this instance nobody can say that Iraq is a coward or America is brave. The leader confirmed that the disaster is if the reverse occures and America is defeated by Iraq or thousands of Americans were held as prisoners of war in Iraq. He revealed that it is possible for a revolution to take place in the United States which may result in a trial of the American president, or his execution. He said that the events of Kuwait could be like a walk in the park in comparison. Italy when it went to occupy libya in 1911 expected that it would be a push over. America could fall into the quagrmies of Iraq, its deserts and could be defeated. Those who put their bets on the American horse may loose. The leader revealed that America was determined to triumph over Iraq and may persist in the use of force to the extent of using weapons of mass destruction. This would be serious precedent and would undermine world peace. The leader confirmed that the lose of excessive force is unacceptable as it is inhuman and would inflict serious damages on the Iraqi people and the civilians. /Jamahiriya news agency / Jana/6 Egyptian satellite channel interviews the Leader Cairo / 5 al Rabia/ Jana (Fifth addendum) The leader indicated that we have previously sympathised with America following the attacks on New York and Washington and we expressed our readiness for donations to salvage the Americans from the wreckage and to donate blood and medicines to the American people who were injured, happless and harmed. He revealed that the whole world sympathised with America when it was able only to vaccinate two milion people against small pox in fear of using this epidemic against it. The leader of the revolution announced that we have already said we are against what we call blasphemy and terrorism when America said it will fight the sources of terrorism. He indicated that the Libyans and Egyptians who came back from Afghanistan posed a real threat to society in view of the atrocities they committed as they kill and bomb others as if they are execution teams. They delcared that people are infidels and they want to kill them in order to remain alone. The leader confirmed we all want to get rid of them and to crush them because there is no understanding with them. We said that if American wanted to crush these rogue elements it is in our interest. He revealed that for the first time Libya and American stood together against a joint enemy that is the blasphemers movement. The leader indicated that the Taliban movement, when it was inside Afghanistan, was free but when people say that this is the image of the Arab and the Muslim world as when Afghanistan changed from a state to an Emirate to undermine all tools of the era, this is rejected. He confirmed that such an affair and escapism is deterioration and unacceptable and failure to counter the requirements of the era which has to be manipulated in our interests. The leader confirmed that returning to the dark ages is not acceptable and therefore no one sympathised with the Tliban regime. He indicated that those who were in Aghanistan were not aware that the blasphermers movement was in the form of al Qaeda and the taliban which had serious implications for others. Their discourse was backward and worrying. However it is not frightening. It is against women, against freedom, against democracy and progress and against the age. The leader noted that everybody applauded America and welcomed it when it started crushing these elements. It has the right to avenge the destruction of New york and Washington. The leader revealed that America had the right to do so. It has the right to defend itself and strike Afghanistan. But now to move to Iraq is doubtful if it is not agreed upon. This may lead to the collpase of the international alliance against terrorism. The leader confirmed that that is why the first loss was incurred by America which was glad about what it achieved against terrorism. That is the collpase of the Western coalition, whether that was against terrorism or otherwise. /Jamahiriya news agency / Jana/7 Egyptian satellite channel interviews the Leader Cairo (Sixth and last addendum) The leader confirmed that the ramifications of the Iraqi crisis would be serious. If America lost and was defeated the Western coalition against terrorism would collpase and if it wins then the whole area would be swept by other groups which are ready now in Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan and other Arab countries. The leader indicated that the issue would not be the issue of Iraq only but a new colonisation that might lead to the opening of warehouses and arming millions of people and the whole area will explode from the Ocean to the Gulf and turn into fire. He revealed that if we see that we are going to be colonised once again then are we going to remain spectators and applaud the enemy. He expressed his hope that this would not happen. /Jamahiriya news agency / _________________________________________________ KOMINFORM P.O. 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