For folks using Windows, I always follow up with the question:  With VMware, 
Parallels, etc. today, even if you're bound to Windows hardware, can you just 
virtualize away the difference?  

Otherwise, I can't say if Cygwin would work -- I haven't looked at Windows 
development, native or via emulator/configure thingers in years.

-Jim




On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Rusty Brooks <m...@rustybrooks.com> wrote:

> Would windows still be supported via something like cygwin?  If so then I 
> guess I'm OK with this.  I have not used AOLServer under windows much, but 
> when I did, it was because I *had* to.  Not having windows support would have 
> sucked a lot.
> 
> Rusty
> 
> On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:07 AM, jgdavid...@mac.com wrote:
> 
>> Every few years we talk about what's next for the strategic direction of 
>> AOLserver which is great.  In addition to the ideas below (which are cool), 
>> I always bring up this question:  Should we dump the Windows port in favor 
>> of a clean Unix code base, configure, build, and install?
>> 
>> I wrote most of that weird Windows code, including the goofy nsconfig stuff. 
>>  Some of it was curious, maybe even clever, but in the end it was a 
>> distraction.  It's impact on the config/build process in particular was 
>> pretty significant.  Today's Linux and OS/X environments are so much more 
>> amenable to Aolserver, with threaded Tcl ready to go, gcc/make all pretty 
>> stable.  It wasn't like that in the early days!    For me, a purge of the 
>> Windows code and then an aggressive scan for anything still not 64-bit 
>> compatible and cleanly build-able using standard configure/gcc/gmake tools 
>> would be quite refreshing :)
>> 
>> -Jim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 26, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Cesáreo García Rodicio <cesa...@cesareox.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Firstly, thanks so much for your work. A lot of us are using aolserver 
>>> everyday so this is welcome !!
>>> 
>>> I'm not a hard developer but in my projects it's been hard students to 
>>> install and use aolserver). And I think it's because documentation and 
>>> installation:
>>> 1. TCL API and Config Files
>>> 2. "Packaged Installation" (batteries included)
>>> 3. Some Case Studies and Complete Examples with API (something simple).
>>> 
>>> Only some ideas. Great Work!
>>> Cesáreo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> El 25/septiembre/12 05:29, Jeff Rogers escribió:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> There should be a 4.5.2 final release sometime soon, but what comes
>>>> next?  I've been organizing my wishlist of what I'd like to see in
>>>> future AOLserver releases and I'm throwing it out there for anyone else
>>>> to add to or comment on.  These are not in any particular order; some
>>>> are half-baked, some are straightforward, and some are little more than
>>>> speculation.  I know development hands are a bit short these days, but
>>>> maybe people will find something that interests them to work on.
>>>> 
>>>> Core features:
>>>> - support chunked postdata
>>>> - api for filter unregistration
>>>> - core async delivery
>>>>  currently possible by transferring conn socket to tcl event loop.
>>>> Would be nice to make it work for everything, by default.
>>>> - re-queue api
>>>>  extension of pre-queue filters and quewait api: allow a conn thread
>>>> to send a request back to quewait for network i/o.
>>>> - move encoding and compression to filters
>>>> - general-purpose worker-pool api
>>>> - external prebinding
>>>>  allow an external program to bind ports and specify open file
>>>> descriptors on the command line;  would allow privileged port binding
>>>> with no root privileges for actual server.  Would also allow restarting
>>>> without closing listen socket.
>>>> - pre-start request service
>>>>  have a micro server that responds to requests with "please wait"
>>>> while server is starting.  Helpful for long start-up sequences.
>>>> 
>>>> Core tcl:
>>>> - replace various c-coded file commands with tcl equivalents (e.g.,
>>>> ns_mkdir, ns_unlink).  Main benefit is clean handling of utf8 filenames.
>>>> - Support a 2-phase interp initialization.  Phase 1 is defining procs /
>>>> loading packages, which is replicated in every new interp.  Phase 2 is
>>>> initializing persistent data, preloading caches, setting up filters and
>>>> handlers, etc; things that are not replicated in every new interp.
>>>> 
>>>> Nsdb:
>>>> - add variable binding to nsdb
>>>> - add lob handling to nsdb
>>>> - support runtime db pool configuration
>>>> 
>>>> Protocols:
>>>> - SPDY
>>>> - websockets
>>>> I have a vague notion of how both of these could work.  But it needs
>>>> somewhat more than that :)
>>>> 
>>>> Documentation:
>>>> - Yes, please.
>>>> 
>>>> Packaging:
>>>> - more config examples
>>>> - examples of various features
>>>> - configuration through web browser
>>>> - "batteries-included" distribution (binaries including perhaps sqlite,
>>>> zlib, openssl, a few simple web apps, maybe php, perl, ...?)
>>>> - single-file mountable packages, like tclkits
>>>> 
>>>> Community:
>>>> - dogfood website
>>>>  It'd be really nice if aolserver.com actually ran on aolserver.  It's
>>>> hosted on sourceforge currently so probably not much chance of that as
>>>> it stands, but who knows.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Anything else to add?
>>>> 
>>>> -J
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