Hi All, Jan,

Hello ASFVisionApacheConCoreDiscussion, here are the politely constructed
reactions of this contributor...

(removing cc parties as it moves into the general discussion area).

First of all:
I am convinced that the future is bright and a full set of talks can be
found to make the track I proposed a success.

For sure there are opportunities to combine and/or reorganise tracks. A
producer should always reserve that right if it helps selling more tickets.
At the moment I am inclined not to be against such an action.

But before providing further thoughts on the matter: could you elaborate
what the talks are that are already registered in your track?

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:28 AM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> May I politely intervene here.
>
> Pierre@ I think it is super that you volunteer to make an extra track, but
> we do need to coordinate things.
>
> Your track is very close to the community track and do you really see 6
> talks on this theme ?
>
> "community over code" is not a good track name, since it will make the
> difference to the "community"
> track invisible.
>
> I see two solutions, you narrow your track to it does not conflict with the
> "community" track, or
> we integrate the 2 tracks, and you build that.
>
> Bertrand@ the maturity presentation is super, pierre beat me in asking for
> such a talk.
>
> rgds
> jan i.
>
> On 12 June 2015 at 09:26, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All, Bertrand,
> >
> > Would the following not be a better (catchier) title for your talk:
> >
> > The Apache Mature Model - save your project from failing
> >
> > As for the track title I believe, that your suggestion is pushing it
> > towards a narrowing direction. Now it encompasses Community and Code. We
> > must not forget that there is a multitude of solutions available to
> ensure
> > that the day to day operations (on various levels) keep on going. By
> > inclusion of presentations about products of Apache projects we
> showcasing
> > that we are a one-stop shop when it comes to building and supporting an
> OS
> > community/project.
> >
> > Nevertheless, I am open to suggestions and might adjust it till the
> latest
> > moment possible, if a good suggestion will make the event in general and
> > the track in particular more attractive to attend.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> > Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> > Based Manufacturing, Professional
> > Services and Retail & Trade
> > http://www.orrtiz.com
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'll submit a talk before Jul 1st, thanks again for inviting
> > >
> > > WBR, Maxim
> > > (from mobile, sorry for the typos)
> > > On Jun 12, 2015 12:58 PM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" <
> bdelacre...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for pushing this!
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Pierre Smits <
> pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > ...The Apache Maturity Model - or a generalisation thereof (Bertrand
> > >> > Delacrétaz)..
> > >>
> > >> Works for me, the title will be "Save your failing project with the
> > >> Apache Maturity Model".
> > >>
> > >> > ...Today I have registered the track at the ApacheCon wiki (here:
> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/FrontPage).  ...
> > >>
> > >> Ok, as for the track title maybe "Community Over Code - In Practice"
> > >> would be more catchy?
> > >>
> > >> I'll submit my talk before July 1st.
> > >>
> > >> -Bertrand
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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