On 12 June 2015 at 11:12, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All, Jan, > > Hello ASFVisionApacheConCoreDiscussion, here are the politely constructed > reactions of this contributor... > > (removing cc parties as it moves into the general discussion area). > > First of all: > I am convinced that the future is bright and a full set of talks can be > found to make the track I proposed a success. > OK, I just want to make sure that you dont make the track so broad that it influences other tracks. I guess I would just like to see a bit more which talks you are thinking of. In general the track idea was for projects, but a helping hand with the other tracks is indeed a good thing. > For sure there are opportunities to combine and/or reorganise tracks. A > producer should always reserve that right if it helps selling more tickets. > At the moment I am inclined not to be against such an action. > As you say the producer has this right and as I have been writing several times building a track is not a guarantee (but nearly). Please remember in the end it is the presentations and not the tracks that are important. The tracks is a convinient way to group talks, but not something that as such has its own life. When we schedule, we will look heavely at the suggested tracks, but talks might flow between tracks to get the puzzle finished. > > But before providing further thoughts on the matter: could you elaborate > what the talks are that are already registered in your track? > First of all it is not my track, it is our event....I am just the one appointed to help coordinate this event. Look at at the preceding AC and you will see a set of commnity talks, that we of course hope to repeat in Budapest. examples are: - state of the feather (keynote in budapest) - the apache way - how to make money with apache. Last time there was also talks about building communities. And dont forget we also have a incubator track, that touches the same theme. Please do not misunderstand me, anybody lending a helping hand is welcome, I am just trying to make sure the big puzzle works, and in any case the presentations you come up with will be reviewed like other presentations. on behalf of the apachecon team jan i. > > Best regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:28 AM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > May I politely intervene here. > > > > Pierre@ I think it is super that you volunteer to make an extra track, > but > > we do need to coordinate things. > > > > Your track is very close to the community track and do you really see 6 > > talks on this theme ? > > > > "community over code" is not a good track name, since it will make the > > difference to the "community" > > track invisible. > > > > I see two solutions, you narrow your track to it does not conflict with > the > > "community" track, or > > we integrate the 2 tracks, and you build that. > > > > Bertrand@ the maturity presentation is super, pierre beat me in asking > for > > such a talk. > > > > rgds > > jan i. > > > > On 12 June 2015 at 09:26, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi All, Bertrand, > > > > > > Would the following not be a better (catchier) title for your talk: > > > > > > The Apache Mature Model - save your project from failing > > > > > > As for the track title I believe, that your suggestion is pushing it > > > towards a narrowing direction. Now it encompasses Community and Code. > We > > > must not forget that there is a multitude of solutions available to > > ensure > > > that the day to day operations (on various levels) keep on going. By > > > inclusion of presentations about products of Apache projects we > > showcasing > > > that we are a one-stop shop when it comes to building and supporting an > > OS > > > community/project. > > > > > > Nevertheless, I am open to suggestions and might adjust it till the > > latest > > > moment possible, if a good suggestion will make the event in general > and > > > the track in particular more attractive to attend. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > > > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > > > Based Manufacturing, Professional > > > Services and Retail & Trade > > > http://www.orrtiz.com > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < > solomax...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I'll submit a talk before Jul 1st, thanks again for inviting > > > > > > > > WBR, Maxim > > > > (from mobile, sorry for the typos) > > > > On Jun 12, 2015 12:58 PM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" < > > bdelacre...@apache.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi, > > > >> > > > >> Thanks for pushing this! > > > >> > > > >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Pierre Smits < > > pierre.sm...@gmail.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > ...The Apache Maturity Model - or a generalisation thereof > (Bertrand > > > >> > Delacrétaz).. > > > >> > > > >> Works for me, the title will be "Save your failing project with the > > > >> Apache Maturity Model". > > > >> > > > >> > ...Today I have registered the track at the ApacheCon wiki (here: > > > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/FrontPage). ... > > > >> > > > >> Ok, as for the track title maybe "Community Over Code - In Practice" > > > >> would be more catchy? > > > >> > > > >> I'll submit my talk before July 1st. > > > >> > > > >> -Bertrand > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >
