On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 11:43:06 -0700, Clarence Verge wrote:

> On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 13:18:35 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote:

>> On Fri, 31 May 2002 21:04:36 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>>> Connect to your ISP, fire-up Arachne, sit-back-and-do-nothing.

>>> You might need to wait for 10min, 15min, 20min or more.
>>> It varies from one ISP to another.
>>> (in my case, with CisNet.... 15min)

>>> What happened???

>> Nothing happens. I don't get disconnected. I can sit here all day
>> and I don't get disconnected. My ISP even promises not to disconnect
>> and doesn't, even after hours of inactivity. I once forgot to hangup
>> and came back after work a good ten hours later and still had a
>> live connection.

Was Arachne the only thing running for those 10 hours?

Or did you have some other internet client or server running which might
have been "keeping the connection alive"???

>> But if I'm *inside the Insight editor* I will always get disconnected.
>> Depending on net traffic, sunspots, or who knows what, I will get
>> disconnected within five or six minutes at the most.

> The reason (I am guessing) is that when inside Insight your are NOT
> inside Arachne. Likely Arachne makes infrequent keep-alive requests
> to your ISP, and Insight of course doesn't even know you are connected.

> Maybe there should be a "keep-alive" function in the packet driver
> itself ?

OK,
I guess this never has been explained properly.
(becuase even Clarence thinks this way)<VBG>

First... We are never "inside of insight".

Insight.exe is simply a "conversion program".

It converts .CNM .TBS .SNT and .MES files to .HTM

CORE.EXE (the main program of Arachne), then displays
that .HTM on our screen.

The "internal editor" which is being used to compose, reply-to, forward
or modify a message (which so many users seem to be thinking is insight),
is actually an integral part of CORE.EXE

Now as to "keep alive"....

The keep alive function in Arachne is only used in one situation.
And that is when we are downloading the images on a page.

Again, have a look at your status bar while the images are downloading.
(sometimes), You will see the message "Alive to" whatever site the
image is being requested form.
(you will never see this message at any other time)

In addition.... not all sites are setup to use "keep-alive".
Of the 43 files currently in my cache\hesders directory.
29 are from sites which do accept keep-alive.
The other 14 are from sites which do not.

Once everything is D/Led.... Arachne sends no "keep-alive requests".

This is why we get disconnected from ISPs which have a specific
"inactive time limit".


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I hope this makes things at-least a little bit clearer than mud. ;-)


BTW,
I am still at a loss to explain the "disconnect/redial" problem. :(

-- 
 Glenn
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