On 14/12/16 08:05, NicoHood wrote: > On 12/13/2016 08:04 PM, Balló György via arch-dev-public wrote: >> 2016. 12. 13, kedd keltezéssel 12.29-kor Doug Newgard ezt írta: >>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 19:16:53 +0100 >>> Balló György via arch-dev-public <arch-dev-public@archlinux.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> -1 for dropping i686 completely. >>>> >>>> +1 for introducing automated builds, even if it's less secure. >>>> >>>> I would like to keep i686 supported, and willing to do anything >>>> that is >>>> needed to setup and maintain an official automated build server for >>>> i686 packages (and possibly for other architectures). >>> >>> I've got to ask, why do you feel so strongly about it? It's been >>> pointed out >>> that i686 really doesn't fit in with the original goals of Arch >>> anymore, is less >>> and less supported upstream, and essentially untested. What is the >>> compelling >>> reason for keeping it around? >> >> Because I still use an i686-only system occasionally, and I prefer to >> keep old hardware working with my favourite distribution. I agree that >> building packages manually for a small percentage of users is >> pointless. But most of the packages can be built for i686 without any >> modifications. We just need an automated build server, which takes the >> job. >> >> -- >> György Balló >> Trusted User >> > > If we have reproduceable builds we could also use this buildserver to > build the x64 packages. I know that this is a huge task, but then we > could automate the package building better in a centralized place. And > instead of dropping i686 we could integrate arm as well. > > Those will not be officially supported, but we could give people access > to fix those arch specific problems. Normal maintainers can focus on x64 > development while some others have a place to distribute and maintain > other architectures of their favorite os. >
If we had a build server, I'd prefer we concentrated on Arch's original goals. To provide a more optimised distribution than everyone else. All other distros have caught up to us these days. Some more optimised x86_64 variants would be good... A