On 8/19/20 2:48 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general wrote: > Em agosto 19, 2020 16:37 Yaro Kasear escreveu: >> >> I've always questioned the wisdom of dropping a .pacnew just when the >> file is different from the default. There's really no reason for it >> considering any changes you made were deliberate and presumably thought >> out. The end result is pacman cluttering /etc with a default >> configuration file whose only reason for existing is to, if it's used, >> clear settings. Why? >> > > The .pacnew is there to indicate that something new exists, or that > you changed > something. Most of the time you can remove .pacnew files, but not > always. Also, > it's only "cluttering" /etc (and /boot, btw), if you don't handle them. > >> What pacman SHOULD do is compare /etc files between package versions and >> see if there's a change BETWEEN DEFAULTS. *Then* there's an actual >> reason to need a new default config file for the user to examine because >> then there's an actual indicator some meaningful change in default >> configuration or how the package handles configs happened. >> > > That's way beyond the scope of a package manager, and also, there's no > way > to tell what "DEFAULTS" (why caps?) should be. Caps for emphasis is all. > >> All most pacnew files wind up doing is sitting there for thirty seconds >> before being deleted without anyone even opening them because they're >> literally just what the file was before the user ALREADY changed it >> before... because it's utterly useless to get a default config file when >> you've intentionally changed it and there's nothing in the new version >> of the package that calls for an examination of the defaults. >> > > I don't know why you said that .pacnew sits for thirty seconds before > being > deleted. Are you using a hook that does this? Because nothing handles > them > automatically, that's the user's job. There are tools to aid in doing > that, > but in the end the user should know what to apply, and what to discard. I wasn't being literal about thirty seconds. Exaggerating. > > Regards, > Giancarlo Razzolini
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