On 3/20/14, 15:01 , Heather Schiller wrote:
As a shepherd for this proposal, I would like to solicit community
feedback on the proposed text.

Aside from the general support/against.. some things to consider:

Do you concur with or have any comment on the problem statement?

The problem statement conflates two issues. I concur with part of the problem statement, there is a conflict between this policy and the RSA.

The second issue basically says that it is bad policy to require a review of the utilization of M&A Transferred resources. I must admit that I would prefer that legitimate M&A transfers not have to go through this process. However, I cannot support removal of this clause without some other way to ensure that people don't use creative contracting to make what should be a 8.3 transfer look like a 8.2 transfer.

If you support the problem statement, do you support removing section
8.2 as the correct path for remediating this conflict?  Do you have
other suggestions for how to handle this?

I'm not fundamentally opposed to removing the paragraph in its entirety, if my issue above can be resolved. However, I suggest there is a less drastic solution to resolving the actual conflict between this policy and the RSA.

Technically, there is only one word in the paragraph in question that is fundamentally in conflict with the RSA, that is "reclaim". Also, with the suspension of sections 4.6 and 4.7 and ARIN-2014-10, I'd suggest that "aggregate" will essentially become a NO-OP.

So, I fully support removing the words "reclaim" and "aggregate" from the paragraph, and slightly adjusting the wording so makes sense after their removal;

   In the event that number resources of the combined organizations
   are no longer justified under ARIN policy at the time ARIN becomes
   aware of the transaction, through a transfer request or otherwise,
   ARIN will work with the resource holder(s) to return or transfer
   resources as needed to restore compliance via the processes outlined
   in current ARIN policy.

The conflict between this policy and the RSA is then resolved, and the likely non-operative option is removed.

If someone has useful suggestions for how to ensure that 8.2 doesn't become a loop-hole for 8.3 if this paragraph is removed, I'd be willing to consider its complete removal.

Thanks.

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