Jason, I'm specifically concerned about section 4.5 (Multiple Discrete Networks) and 4.2.3.8 (Reassignments for Third Party Internet Access (TPIA) over Cable).
The criteria for those policies I see as being in conflict with the 80 percent aggregate utilization in 8.3.2.1 text. 8.3.2.1 Minimum requirements Prior to qualifying for non-M&A address transfers, an organization must demonstrate an average of 80% utilization, as measured under section 4, across the aggregate of all addresses that are currently allocated, assigned, reallocated, or reassigned to, or otherwise in use by, the organization. Thanks, Kevin From: Jason Schiller [mailto:jschil...@google.com] Sent: September 16, 2014 10:45 PM To: Kevin Blumberg Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net List (arin-ppml@arin.net) Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-20: Transfer Policy Slow Start and Simplified Needs Verification Kevin, I am not sure I grasp the question. If the organization is requesting a direct allocation/assignment from ARIN then they must qualify under 4.x. If the organization is requesting approval for transfer space, then they must qualify under 8.x. I don't immediately see a case where you might qualify under 4.x but not 8.x other than immediate need (I'll come to that shortly), but I'm guessing you do, and we will need to deal with that. Maybe something got lost in leveling the playing field between ISP and End-user and if so I'm ok with that (although maybe it should have tipped the other way). I consciously made "immediate need" different. I think actually deployment of in 30 days for ISPs or 25% in 30 days and 50% with in 1 year is a bit burdensome, and I have heard that many Orgs ignore this. I also think it is problematic to size the block based purely on a future looking projection with little recourse to correct things at the 30 day or 1 year mark. I wanted to put some teeth into it so I wanted proof of actual things to number (maybe 50% is not the right figure). So what is the specific scenario you see? __Jason On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Kevin Blumberg <kev...@thewire.ca> wrote: Jason, In a situation that a request would be approved under a 4.x section, but not in 8.x, which would take precedence? Thanks, Kevin Blumberg _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact i...@arin.net if you experience any issues. -- _______________________________________________________ Jason Schiller|NetOps|jschil...@google.com|571-266-0006 _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact i...@arin.net if you experience any issues.