Sounds like "no one knows yet, so lets not shoot ourselves in the foot
by underallocating prematurely"

Would it make more sense to allocate a smaller chunk, but sparsely?  If it
turns out the smaller chunk suffices (e.g. a /60* is more than almost
anyone needs), then the remaing 15 /60s** can be allocated to other
users, but if everyone really needs a /56, the existing allocations
can be bumped up in place (no renumbering, just access to a larger block.)

Or is 64 bits so huge that the mind can't cope and everyone really does
need a /48 for home use and this won't force IPv7(?) with 512-bit addresses
before anyone suspects?

Does every proton in the universe need its own subnet?


* or a /56 or whatever

** or the remaining 254 /56's as the case may be



On Thu, 13 Aug 2015, David Huberman wrote:

> ARIN does sparse allocation, where every /32 has 15 more /32s reserved for 
> you (a /28).   Since almost no one really knows what they're doing yet (in my 
> opinion; it's all first generation greenfield deployments we are doing), I 
> say go ahead and give a /48 to each customer and re evaluate in the future 
> when you have more data.  Being liberal with customers is better for them 
> than being overly stingy. And you aren't harming the "free pool" since the 
> first /32 is one sixteenth of what is already held for you.
> 
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> To: John Santos; arin-ppml@arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility
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> John,
> 
> A /64 is just one network.  Arguments have been made that a smart
> phone "needs" multiple /64's just to run IPv6 much less a "site" or
> building.  The current fight is between a /56 and a /48 for each
> customer as internal networking in v6 is going to happen.  Much
> discussion has been happening on both Nanog and IPv6-ops mailing
> lists.
> 
> James
> 
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:59 PM, John Santos <j...@egh.com> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe off-topic, but the recommendation for assigning a /48 to each of
> > the ISP's customers...  Does that apply only to business customers
> > and organizations, etc., or does it also apply to residential customers?
> > Why would a residence (unless they're network hackers like most of us)
> > ever need more than a /64, let alone 2^16 /64's?  I don't see any obvious
> > use case for people subnetting their house or appartment :-)
> >
> > I'm sure this has been discussed to death here and elsewhere.  I've not
> > yet been involved in any large-scale IPv6 deployments (just our lone LAN
> > that easily fits in a IPv4 /24, and doesn't yet have any off-site IPv6
> > connectivity), so I'm trying to internalize IPv6 best practices before
> > screwing up too badly.
> >
> > --
> > John Santos
> > Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
> > 781-861-0670 ext 539
> >
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