John, And if every ISP starts becoming an end-user because they can now submit reassignment records and ARIN goes broke because they've lost X% (X = not insignificant) of their revenue, how useful will the registry be then?
I'm supportive of reassignment records for end users, for things like better geolocation, dividing between their departments, facilitating usage counting, etc. But if they are reselling them they are an ISP and should bear the cost of that rather than pushing it down to other end users who are not directly deriving revenue from limited IP resources. My $0.02 (and then some) Cheers, GTG > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of John Curran > Sent: August 28, 2015 4:06 PM > To: Gary T. Giesen; Andrew Dul > Cc: [email protected] List > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-8: Reassignment records for > IPv4 End-Users > > On Aug 28, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Gary T. Giesen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Not to beat a dead horse, but I think if an org wants to (or is > > required to) make assignments to entities that don't fit that > > definition, then they should apply for an ISP block (or have their > > existing block converted) and pay the appropriate fees, and allow the > > rest of us to keep end-user fees low. > > We have had a handful of organizations switch from end-user to ISP for the > purposes of being able to put in reassignment records (e.g. to improve the > usefulness of geolocation), but it is almost certain that others having avoided > such a change due to the cost implications. > > In the end, the community has to consider the indirect financial benefit vs > the implied reduction in usefulness of the registry that results when parties > seek to avoid paying same. > > Thanks, > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > ARIN > > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
