Just a couple of questions regarding the carrots and the sticks for the ARIN staff:

Other than those who came back to change their initial /35 to a /32, how many ARIN customers have come back for another allocation of IPv6 space because they used the first one to the extent the rules require, which I think is 75% of /48 block assignments.

And, how many customers have received a first allocation of IPv6?

Divide, and I can find out what percentage came back for more.

What I would like to know is my gut feeling correct, which is that after receiving an allocation of IPv6, nearly nobody ever returns to the well for more, or at least not like it was back in the IPv4 days when ARIN had IPv4 address space to allocate, and thus there are no sticks?

Another bit of info I would like to know if possible: what percentage of customers with a v6 allocation has actually put any of their assignments into SWIP? Since the current policy for SWIP in IPv6 is /64 or more, every allocation should be there.

The answers are useful to determine as far as the documenting the assignment for ARIN, how useful SWIP is for that purpose.

I have a /48 from 2 upstreams. Only one is registered. The other ISP does not appear to have ANY SWIP entries, even though I have set up the network with static v6 for at least a dozen customers, each of which received a /48.

Another "proxy" for to consider in deciding to SWIP or not might be the delegation of the reverse DNS for the allocated block. If there is a delegation, this is another way to find the technical contact other than SWIP if there is a problem.

Albert Erdmann
Network Administrator
Paradise On Line Inc.


On Mon, 17 Jul 2017, David Farmer wrote:

On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 2:11 PM, David R Huberman <dav...@panix.com> wrote:


Can you define voluntary?

Is the voluntary choice to record a reassignment
up to the USP?

Or does the choice belong to the end-user?


I think that's a business decision the two parties make together. I think
an ISP can choose to SWIP whatever it wants, and should do so with the
consent of the end-user. I think an end-user should be able to demand a
SWIP entry, and the ISP should generally comply.


And if the ISP doesn't comply with the user's demand, can one of their
recourses be to appeal to ARIN?  Obviously, in a healthy market another,
and maybe more effective, option is to get another ISP.  However, not all
markets are healthy and too frequently users have only one realistic option
for an ISP, especially in rural areas.

I think it is important that if a user requests a SWIP from an ISP, and
they not given the SWIP, this should be at very least a technical violation
of ARIN policy.  Is ARIN going to revoke an ISP's address space because of
a single complaint from a user in this regard, of course not, but I would
expect ARIN to intercede with an ISP on behalf of the user.  However, if
there are repeated issues, especially large numbers of them, and if there
are other policy violations too, then I would expect harsher actions by
ARIN eventually.

Thanks

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