Many hosting and access providers like to give each paying customer their own IPv4 address, since it simplifies DMCA compliance. Otherwise the hosting provider needs to get into the middle of keeping logs for every customer. Even though SNI allows more than one https site per IP, it does not create a division for DMCA purposes. Often in actual fact, each "Customer" has further divided his/her hosting space to host for multiple websites, sometimes belonging to other people than the ones paying the bill to the hosting provider. This includes each customer using SNI to determine the identity of the many websites that each customer is hosting themselves.

/22 in the proposal is a maximum. They would still have to show how they intend to use the space in accordance with 4.2.2 if they want more than a /24.

I say lets try the /22, and if needed reduce it. Remember 4.2.1.5 sets the minimum at /24, so setting it at /24 is a one size fits all policy.

As for NAT and even web hosting, the 64k port limitation is also an issue as pointed out by others. While hosting many sites on a single IPv4 address can be done, it may not be considered rational when considering compliance with many laws that are required, including the DMCA. This is one of the factors that speak against the use of CGNAT for internet access customers, unless the customers are divided by port address ranges or like means. Otherwise the ISP has to get into the logging business, which can also turn into a big cost center.

Albert Erdmann
Network Administrator
Paradise On Line Inc.

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:


In message <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:

Our choices with this Draft Policy:

1) Reject it because it does not completely eliminate the abuse, and allow
the current policy (with ALL its abuse) to continue.

or

2) Adopt the policy even though not perfect at eliminating ALL the abuse,
but does cut back much of it.

Please allow me to note that there is also a third option:


3) Adopt the policy, but select some different default allocation size,
other than /22.

Personally, I think that a /22 is the Wrong Way To Go and it would be better
to change that to a single /24.

I mean what do people even need lots of IPv4 for anymore anyway?  A single
web server with a single IPv4 address can easily support tens of thousands
of distinct and unique web sites.  A single mail server on a single IPv4
address can likewise support mail services for tens of thousands of
recipient and sender domain names.  A single name server on a single IPv4
address can also provide DNS service for tens of thusands of domain names.
For anyone needing to support big batches of end-luser clients, there is
IPv6.


Regards,
rfg

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