With the clarification that organizations will be removed from the waiting list 
if they receive an allocation for facilitating their IPv6 deployment, I no 
longer support this proposal for the reasons outlined by the ARIN staff below. 
My organization will not be impacted by this but I can understand where some 
could be detrimentally effected by this change. Receiving an allocation for 
deploying IPv6 should not be tied to the waiting list for a regular IPv4 
assignment IMO.

--
Brian E Jones, CSP-SM, CSP-PO
NI&S Virginia Tech
bjo...@vt.edu

> On Jul 30, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Kat Hunter <takoka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> All- Staff and legal review has been completed for 2019-9. Please take a 
> moment to review the comments. For those that supported this, do you still 
> support the policy given the staff notes. Additionally, we'd like to hear 
> from anyone that this may impact in a negative way. 
> 
> Policy: https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_9/ 
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_9/>
> Staff and Legal Review 
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_9/#slr 
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_9/#slr> 
> 
> "ARIN Staff Comments
> 
> This policy could be implemented as written. Current policy is that any 
> organization on the waiting list that receives IPv4 addresses through a 
> transfer are removed from the waiting list, but those receiving an NRPM 4.10 
> (Dedicated IPv4 Block to Facilitate IPv6 Deployment) assignment are not 
> removed from the waiting list. The proposed change would result those 
> organizations receiving an NRPM 4.10 assignment also being removed from the 
> waiting list.
> 
> Staff notes that adding the “…or an allocation request fulfilled under 
> Section 4.10…” may be detrimental to some organizations, as address space 
> received per NRPM 4.10 must be used in a manner consistent with IPv6 
> translation services and cannot be used for other purposes such as customer 
> assignments, shared hosting services, etc.
> 
> Organizations need IPv4 address space to assign to their customers, and many 
> organizations will request a block from the Waiting List to be used for their 
> customer assignments but still need some IPv4 space for deployment of IPv6 
> translation services as outlined in section NRPM 4.10. Removing organizations 
> from the Waiting List when they receive a NRPM 4.10 assignment would hinder 
> the existing IPv4 operations & growth of organizations, and may provide a 
> disincentive to IPv6 deployment."
> 
> 
> 
> -Kat Hunter 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 1:42 PM Brian Jones <bjo...@vt.edu 
> <mailto:bjo...@vt.edu>> wrote:
> I support this revised version of draft policy ARIN-2019-9 as written. 
> 
> Brian 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 23, 2019, 12:44 PM ARIN <i...@arin.net <mailto:i...@arin.net>> 
> wrote:
> The following has been revised:
> 
> * Draft Policy ARIN-2019-9: Clarify Interactions Between NRPM 4.10 IPv6 
> Transition Space Requests and NRPM 4.1.8.2 Unmet Needs Requests
> 
> Revised text is below and can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_9/ 
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_9/>
> 
> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will 
> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this Draft 
> Policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as 
> stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these 
> principles are:
> 
> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> * Technically Sound
> * Supported by the Community
> 
> The PDP can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/ 
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/>
> 
> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/ 
> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/>
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sean Hopkins
> Policy Analyst
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> 
> 
> 
> Draft Policy ARIN-2019-9: Clarify Interactions Between NRPM 4.10 IPv6 
> Transition Space Requests and NRPM 4.1.8.2 Unmet Needs Requests
> 
> Problem Statement:
> 
> It has been observed that an organization requesting IPv4 resources 
> under NRPM Section 4.10, Dedicated IPv4 Block To Facilitate IPv6 
> Deployment, can also request similar or the same resources under Section 
> 4.2.1.8, Unmet Needs. This proposal aims to remove this potential for 
> duplicate requests under these sections.
> 
> Policy Statement:
> 
> Section 4.1.8.2, Unmet Needs:
> 
> Current language: Any requests met through a transfer will be considered 
> fulfilled and removed from the waiting list.
> 
> Proposed language:
> 
> Any requests met through a transfer or an allocation request fulfilled 
> under Section 4.10 will be considered fulfilled and removed from the 
> waiting list.
> 
> Timetable for Implementation: Immediate
> 
> Anything Else:
> 
> Currently, organizations can receive no more than a /24 at a time under 
> Section 4.10. However, Proposal ARIN-PROP-266, submitted by Chris Tacit 
> and myself, could potentially allow an org to receive up to a /21 under 
> that section, widening the potential for abuse by “double-dipping” 
> waiting list and transition space requests. As such, this proposal 
> should be considered in that context.
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