On 10 Oct 2019, at 1:07 PM, Owen DeLong 
<o...@delong.com<mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote:

On Sep 30, 2019, at 11:02 , Mike Burns 
<m...@iptrading.com<mailto:m...@iptrading.com>> wrote:

Hi Fernando,

You said “RIR is and has always been the one who drives the resources to be 
efficientlly assigned by analysing justifications not private transfer 
companies. If an organization is not using resouces efficiently it either may 
change its resource assignment strategy otherwise it doesn't justify for those 
addresses anymore and should return them back to the RIR.”

There is no policy in ARIN to return un-needed space.  IPv4 resource holders 
own something of value, which is what economists call an “alienable asset”.  It 
is possible for such resource holders to return such space to ARIN, but you 
don’t have to be an economist to understand why they don’t and haven’t for the 
most part.

Mike,

I refer you to ARIN RSA Version 12.0 Section 7:

7. NO PROPERTY RIGHTS

Holder acknowledges and agrees that: (a) the Included Number Resources are not 
property (real, personal, or intellectual) of Holder; (b) Holder does not and 
will not have or acquire any property rights in or to Included Number Resources 
by virtue of this Agreement; (c) Holder will not attempt, directly or 
indirectly, to obtain or assert any patent, trademark, service mark or 
copyright in any number resources in the United States or any other country; 
and (d) Holder will transfer or receive Included Number Resources in accordance 
with the Policies.

Owen -

My understanding is that while rights to IP address blocks are not a recognized 
type of intangible or intellectual property right, that doesn’t preclude them 
being considered ‘assets’ of a party, as assets may include property rights or 
_contractual rights_.    Note that property rights are rights over things 
enforceable against all other persons, whereas contractual rights are rights 
enforceable against particular persons; i.e. the other parties of the agreement.

ARIN customers receive contractual right to be uniquely associated with their 
particular address blocks in the registry, and not have that association change 
except in accordance with the policies.  These rights are provided by (and 
enforceable) per the terms of the registration services agreement.  ARIN also 
will recognize and formalize the rights that legacy address holders have to 
specific blocks maintained in the ARIN registry by entering into a registration 
services agreement with them, if they so desire.

Such contractual rights, while not property rights, are indeed assets.

Of course, the above only represents my offhand view of the matter, and those 
seeking legal advice would best be served by obtaining such from counsel with 
deep familiarity of the legal aspects of the IP number registry system.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers




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