On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:33 AM, Julie Marchant <onp...@riseup.net> wrote:
> On 2018年02月14日 06:45, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > .... yes. my understanding is that Trademarks and Cerfitication > > Marks, by being covered *by* Copyright Law, are in effect a sub-branch > > of Copyright. > > No, copyright has nothing to do with them. Why do you think copyright > has anything to do with anything you are doing? > > Copyright is a legal monopoly on the copying and distribution of a work. > It was originally invented in Britain as a form of censorship, where the > monarch would approve printers to print books in the form of a temporary > monopoly. The current incarnation of copyright exists with the > justification of encouraging the creation of works, e.g. books. It has > nothing whatsoever to do with names or certifications. All that > documentation could be in the public domain and it would make absolutely > no difference. Heck, a lot of corporate logos are in the public domain; > you can't copyright fonts, and logos like that of SONY are nothing but > printed text, meaning they can't be copyrighted. > > IANAL, of course. > > > the key thing is that i am *required* to be FRAND (fair, reasonable > > and non-discriminatory). if the entity known as "ronwirring" were > > just simply told to bugger off, he could perfectly reasonably claim, > > under trademark / certification mark / copyright law (whichever it is) > > that he had been "discriminated against" by me, the (copyright) owner > > of the EOMA68 Certification Mark. > That's an issue with patent licensing, yet another completely different > issue you're lumping together with this. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_and_non-discriminatory_licensing > > But let's assume that certification marks don't allow you to > discriminate against people in relation to it. That would be the > granting of certification. Have you threatened to deny certification > arbitrarily? No? Good. No one has to be a member of a random mailing > list to get certification for a product. > > Still not a lawyer, still not legal advice, of course. > > -- > Julie Marchant > https://onpon4.github.io > > Protect your emails with GnuPG: > https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org > > _______________________________________________ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk > It occurs to me that Luke is a citizen of the UK, and so may not be using US law. The question is which law is he using? That could change things quite a bit. (Which reminds me that outside of the US, giving legal advice is allowed, even if you aren't a lawyer) _______________________________________________ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk