Whether a song can be put in another film is dependent on much more than just the "period" element. Inparticular storyline, and the director. every director is unique in his story telling style and even songs from that era just wouldnt fit in.
The second factor is the audience. During the Mughal-e-Azam time the audience composition was entirely different. Rising/lagaan brought out the priod element that appeals us, rather than the demographic of 20 or so yrs ago. And even Mughal-e-Azam had traits of the time it was composed in.. Of course, I can't prove any of this without a tape. I havent seen most of the movies you mention. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/22/05 12:28 PM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote: > > > For anybody willing to understand what period films are > > about should listen to compositions of Naushad > > (Mughal-e-Azam) and Khayyam (umrao jaan) etc in which they > > created the sounds of the era in film that film were based. > > > > > > I repeat, Mughal-e-Azam songs would not have been out of place in any of > > the 1960's movies. > > In absense of any hard data about "period" elements put in > Mughal-e-azam songs, let me test your hypothesis that those > songs can be put in any film. > > Mughal-e-azam was a 1960 film. > > some other films of that decade are (set in then current time) > > Dil Apnaa Aur Preet Paraai/ 1960 > Jis Desh Mein Ganga Behti Hai/ 1960 > Parakh/ 1960 > > Bhabhi Ki Chudiyan/ 1961 > Gunga Jumna/ 1961 > Hum Dono/ 1961 > Junglee/ 1961 > Sasural/ 1961 > Shama/ 1961 > > Aarti/ 1962 > Anpadh/ 1962 > Asli Naqli/ 1962 > Bees Saal Baad/ 1962 > Ek Musafir Ek Hasina/ 1962 > > to name a few. I have selected some popular names which > people might recall. > > Do you feel that if you find > > a "pyaar kiyaa to Daranaa kyaa" or > a "ai mohabbat zindaabaad" or > a "ye dil kii lagii kam kyaa hogii" or > a "terii mahafil me.n qismat aazamaa ke" > > in the album of, say, Bees Saal Baad, among the songs > > - kahii.n diip jale kahii.n dil > - beqaraar kar ke hame.n yuu.n na jaaiye > - zaraa nazaro.n se kah do jii > - sapne suhane ladakpan ke > > you would feel it ok without sensing any time warp? > > ------- > > On the other hand, > > - Kisna's "hum hai.n is pal yahaa.N" could have been used in > lakeer instead of "paigaam laayaa saawan" , and vice versa. > > - Taal's "kahii.n aag lage" could have been used in mangal > pandey instead of "rasiya", and vice versa. > > - pukar's "qismat se tum hamako mile ho" could have been > used in Lagaan instead of "o rii chhorii", and vice versa. > > And no one would have felt any difference. that's what I am > saying that people not feeling the difference is what is > causing ARR's songs not getting the weightage that music of > a period film gets. > > ---------- > On the similar note, there had been enough mention in this > group itself that ARR had re-used such and such loop and > whatever in such and such song of Mangal pandey. That itself > tells that ARR feels he can use component of a 1999 based > film in a 1857 based film. > > That is why I am objecting to. > > > I have grown up with this song. What is different in this from the other > > songs in that era, tell me? > > If you compare it with ARR's todays music, you will see the difference > > and this is but to be expected. The recording techniques have improved > > tremendously over the years. I am not sure whether the same > > primitiveness can be recreated. > > People have claimed to have recreated that time and again. > > As some other mail in this thread said, ARR himself had > recreated that in kadam kadam badhaaye jaa and hum dillii > dillii jaaye.nge. > > Only that ARR putting efforts to recreate it in other songs > is not all that visible. His interpretation of what could > have been the sounds of some bygone era, is open to > interpretation by listeners whether they find ARR's > composing representing that era or not. > > And it seems that most of the people have concluded that > ARR's music is not period music, hence the letting down of > compositions have begun which irked ARR. > > > -- > > Warm Regards > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Vinayak > > Regards. > -- > Rawat This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
