Guys lets end this here man...i think this topic has been talked so much tat it has to end here...see when u ppl r itself able to make up some kind of a similarity between these 2 songs(thought they dont sound similar except for tat first two line)do u think d director,d producer and above all our boss who knows so much in music,r sitting der simply to recycle old stuff and give it to us...when v ourself analyse so much in His music wont he do it...may b der r certain ppl who deliberately copy things but i dont think ppl like arr,illayaraja all do things wantedly..dey may b just inspired by it thats all and der is no necessity of copying some stuff for dey have der own talents and dey have proved it en number of times....so plssss y all these things...lelts coool down..it was just a mere co incidence...pls ppl v all r arr fans lets not dispute among ourselves for lil things like this...i dint intend to hurt anyone..if i had am sorry..take care..
with regards,
Aarthi
aravinth aravinth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey ARRFANZ....stop using the word DISAPPOINTED.... if u r a true fan of ARR then by the end of this discussion u shld hav understood tht the only similarity between those two songs were RAAGA n nothin else...Also it may be jus a coincident, i can give u thosand's of songs like that for example...so this not mean COPY... If u stil cant understand this simple thing then u can urself ask a music expert abt it....bye....Aravinth.MChennai.
Guy Harish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hei bro....U've done an excellent job in clearin up this doubt...They're not the same...ARR DIDNT & WONT COPY.....!!!!!At least this really shows who r the real fans of ARR....Haiyo haiyo,ore tamashe po with this people....;)Stay happy always guys....ARR & ARR's Music will always remain pure....Yur Fren & ARR Fan;HariRAHMANiac
Mohamed Yaseer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi everyone...Hope this will clear the doubt that A.R Rahman didn't copy MSV's adi ennadi raakkamma..I have written the musical notes for both songs and attached it with this mail...You will realize that the notes are different but the arrangement are almost the same...I also have attached the midi of both songs which was claimed to be similar...Will upload the part of the real song in gmail account soon...Try to listen to it again and again...Note each and every part of...You guys will be fascinated the difference....Hope this will satisfy everyone...We can come to the conclusion that A.R Rahman didn't copy MSV's songs but both songs appear from the same raaga and A.R Rahman and M.S Visvanathan are great composers....Have a wonderful day...
riyaz ahamed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
illayaraja ,yuvan shankar raja, Harris was copying a whole song, but noone wasComplaining them. if rahman copies single line everyone was telling rahman copies.
mohamed mahees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:hi and hi again....i agree with my_arr....it has been happening a lot of late...not only accusations against arr, but also the degrading of other MDs in this group..d best way is to appreciate the good, and discard the bad...it is not at all encouraging to accuse MDs of copyin, and it is not fair to condemn them if several notes sound similar as like my_arr said, sa re ga ma pa da ni, thats all we have...mahees
my_arr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Some people tend to get over exited and straight away saying that
A.R Rahman copies just because the songs sound similar...Well we
can't say if any other music directors use sa re ga ma pa da ni
because that's all we have...It's a rotation of these seven keys...
Giving a comment is highly appreciated and a healthy thing
actually...I never say that arrfanz has no rights to post and proof
his point, but just think before using the word copy because it can
be highly offencing...Make sure you know the diffrence
between 'copy', 'inspire', 'uplifted' and 'appear from the same
raaga'...Am not trying to compare whether you have learnt sangeetham
or not but please don't come up with funny new terms...Sangeetham is
the very basic indian classical music and also the soul of the music
itself...Please don't kill it...
I am talking generally...No offence to anyone...
Have a nice day and enjoy your weekend...
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arun Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> Prudhvi, good comments man.
>
> To the subject,
> I don't understand why people says 'ARR copies'. If that's the
way he works then he won't be recognised globally.
>
> I believe ARR would himself be careful in his tunes that they
don't resemble any other. Bcoz a single instance to prove he copied
will bring down his fame and hardwork he did so far.
> I read in a reply to this subject that the first lines are
only similar. Why will one copy only two lines. ARR is a genius -
can any one think he fell in short for two phrases that made him
to copy?
>
> And I didn't bother to check out the links provided claiming GF
was copied or whatever.
>
> (In another message someone told Kan pesum vaarthaigal is copied
from kuchi kuchi raakama. It's just notes are similar, it can't
be said as copied)
>
> Regards
> Arun
>
> Prudhvi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Hi All,
>
> Please be clear about what this group is all about....
>
> Is it about only praising ARR?
>
> Every member in this group (irrespective of whether he knows
some sangeetam or not) is free to express his thoughts..
>
> If someone comes up with some doubt about ARR copying, let him
prove it.
>
> If someone finds some part of a song being copied, let him
produce the samples as arrfanz did.
>
> After listening to the two samples, the Music Gurus of this
group can comment.
>
> One need not shout unnecessarily on one's comments.
>
> I can understand that most of the members of this group are
emotionally attached not only to ARR music but also to ARR himself.
>
> I think u got my point.
>
>
> In a similar case, while watching the movie "Chaudhavi ka
Chand", i felt as if some of the tabla beats used as a BGM in the
movie were being reused by ARR in one of his songs. But when i
listened carefully, i understood that it was not exactly the same.
Actually we are soooo used to listening to ARR songs that we have
such doubts while listening to others' music.
>
> Since i posted this in the group, do u think that i am not a ARR
fan?
> The sole reason we are a part of this grp is... we all are ARR
fans.
>
> If someone tries to question his originality, it doesnt mean he
is no more a fan of ARR.
>
> Regards,
> Prudhvi
>
> arrfanz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>
> u dont think u r to good MR.RAYRAI2k.Before u comment about
anything
> pls think first.dont talk rubish.what is ur problem if i created
my
> account before posting that message.I am a.r rahman fan and i only
> buy original arr cd.but i found there is similarity on that two
> songs. if u really wanna listen to the ennedi rakkema pls go to
this
> web http://www.musicindiaonline.com/s?q=t.m.s&i=26&f=all&s=&o=225
>
> Ennadi Rakkamma
> Movie Name : Pattikkada Pattanama (1972)
> Singer : Sounderarajan T M
> Music Director : Viswanathan M S
> Lyrics : Kannadasan
> Year : 1972
>
>
> the same part is:
> kamma karaile :kammakaraile umma kudekkava summa nee veluttukattu
> enne di rakkama: adi ennadi rakkamma pallaku paduttu en nenju
> kulungguraadi
>
> rayrai,do u need anymore explaination?
>
>
>
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "rayrai2k" wrote:
> >
> > You create a yahoo ID today and very soon u bcame a memeber of
thsi
> > grp and in moments u cmment from SA that BOSS has copied in GF
that
> > too an old song and we did not even notice.
> > Shud I praise u r genius, if you want just praise the grp will
> praise
> > u just for the sake of it. But just stop here.
> > so do u mean to say adi ennethi rakkema(old movie) was done so
> > futuristic, our great boy dont remember which movie is this song
> from.
> > but pulled a song. I wonder if there is ever a song by this name.
> >
> >
> > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "arrfanz" wrote:
> > >
> > > hai guys!i am arr fan from south africa.
> > > just wanna tell u guys that a.r rahman copied the song kamma
> karaile
> > > (godfather) from adi ennethi rakkema(old movie).I am also arr
> fan but
> > > we must be open minded and not saying that everything he did
is
> > > correct.that shows that we are true arr fan.
> > >
> >
>
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