i thought Rahman used the loop directly (which is not wrong), but 
man he completely changed the loop, the instruments. He was just 
inspired by that loop. Relax dude... good luck becoming a MD, once 
you do, you will know that people like you are a big pain for MDs. 
Life is short man, have fun with your music. Next time dont turn a 
spark into a forest fire and trigger 5 pages of responses. My 
respect for ARR hasnt gone down a minuscule amount, which goes to 
say how useless your post was. I am sorry but the way you titled 
your post, the way you worded this, just makes people mad. There is 
nothing wrong with sharing this info, but next time chooose your 
ideas/words carefully. later have fun!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Sunil VG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is 
talking about.
> Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot 
see the
> attachment, I've copied the same to the files section:
> 
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/
> 
> Its called "da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3".
> 
> Regards,
> Sunil
> 
> On 7/30/07, shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against 
Rahman
> > using de sample, what was de need for such a subject 
line? "Munbe Munbe Vaa
> > is a complete lift of a sample!" I guess this is what has 
triggered so
> > many responses..
> >
> > On 7/30/07, Krishna None < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >    Are you guys stupid or what???
> > >
> > > Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. 
Rahman to use
> > > these samplea???
> > > When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these 
samples???
> > >
> > > When did I said that nobody may use samples?
> > > When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples?
> > > When did I said that it is wrong to use samples?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-
mail, i
> > > didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail!
> > >
> > > Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I wrote in my email :"I can say, that everybody uses samples, 
wheter
> > > they are beats or
> > > sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. 
R.
> > > Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in 
his
> > > music arts."
> > >
> > > Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not 
upload
> > > the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness.
> > >
> > > I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against 
A. Rahman
> > > using samples!!!! READ MY E-MAIL!!!!
> > >
> > > Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these 
files. If
> > > I do then I'm in violation wih these rights!
> > >
> > > I can say: Search the internet for: "Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. 
Hip Hop
> > > Drum Loops & Samples". The sample (map) which sounded like 
Munbe Munbe Vaa
> > > is called: Hip Harp.
> > >
> > > See for yourself.
> > >
> > > These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses 
them for
> > > you're own.
> > >
> > > Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. 
etc.
> > >
> > > A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE 
FOR
> > > MUSIC)!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Krishna
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  ------------------------------
> > > From: *Ashwin Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of 
a sample!
> > > *
> > > Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)*
> > >
> > >  I agree with Kunal....Would you say that because somebody had 
the
> > > "Theen taal" (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If 
somebody else
> > > used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of 
beats /
> > > notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds 
not just good
> > > but great.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Kunal Rajan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM
> > > Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a 
sample!
> > >
> > >  People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers 
to use in
> > > their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world 
who has worked
> > > without samples and loops. When it is made specially for 
them... why not use
> > > it ???
> > > Kunal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Posted by: "chup_ssshhh" chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject=+Re:Munbe+Munbe+Vaa+is+a+complete+lift+of+a+sample%21>
> > > chup_ssshhh <http://profiles.yahoo.com/chup_ssshhh> Sun Jul 
29, 2007
> > > 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer),
> > >
> > > Hi guys and girls,
> > >
> > > Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. 
Ofcourse
> > > I'm not the only one who uses these samples.
> > > Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip 
Hop
> > > Drum Loops and Samples.
> > >
> > > I was really glad hearing these awesome samples....till 
suddenly I
> > > heard a simmilarity between a sample song called "Hip Harp" 
and Munbe
> > > Munbe Vaa!!!
> > >
> > > I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these 
samples but
> > > played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete 
lift! Even
> > > the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm 
used by
> > > A. R. Rahman in "Munbe Munbe Vaa"!!!
> > >
> > > I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good 
link
> > > where i can upload these files.
> > >
> > > Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE 
SAMPLES ARE
> > > MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S "MUNBE MUNBE VAA"!!!
> > >
> > > I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats 
or
> > > sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. 
R.
> > > Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in 
his
> > > music arts.
> > >
> > > Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, 
otherwise you
> > > are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample 
and then
> > > give you're opinion.
> > >
> > > Sorry for my bad English:P
> > >
> > > Krishna
> > >
> > >
> > >
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