Very true thulasi!!! I completely agree with you!!! Thanx alot Vithur .. loved reading every bit of this interview!!! thanx again
~ Love music love life Neetika ----- Original Message ----- From: Thulasi Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 10 May 2008 09:38:45 +0530 (IST) Subject: Re: [arr] Subhash Ghai on ARR - Rahmania Program ( Some tidbits abt Yuvraaj also discussed ) i cant remember any other interview which has been so fulfilling as this.. terrific interview. Mr.Ghai has jus expressed himself to laud ARR.. Vithur, thanx a ton for sharing.. if u typed the whole interview, jus for the sake of sharing with ARR fans, then i wud b the first to salute u for investing ur time for others sake.. i cant even think how u have time to do all these.. hats off! u r a biggest asset to this group. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Rahmaniacs, > > Subhash Ghai, speaks abt Taal, Kisna, and also abt YUvraj. He also talks > abt the qualities of ARR. A very good Interview > > Q :- You didnt work on any Director. You were writing scripts. Tell us > > SG ( Subhash Ghai ) :- I was never assistant to any Director. Right from > my childhood, I used to write plays, direct them, in my college and > University Days. It was my hobby. The hobby turned into profession. I > studied in Delhi, and Pune. > > Q: You produce movies, You direct and produce movies, and you direct > movies. Which among the three do you consider you are best at ? > > SG :- I write, I direct and I produce. Three Jobs I have to do. There are > three persons in me, who keep fighting with each other. Writer keeps writing > longer version of scripts. Director wants to cut it; Producer wants to > control Director's economics; But I have managed to balance all this three, > very smartly and very intelligently. > > Q :- what was your Dad and mom ? > > SG :- Mom was a teacher in Delhi, and my father was a Dental doctor. > > Q :- You have immense organational Capabilities and capacity. Who instills > all these qualities in you ? > > Sg :- There are certain qualities ( traits ) which come from your family. > Positively, all those humlity, humbleness are from my mom. Practical Living > in this world , I learnt from my father. My father was more of a practical > person, and my mom was more philsophical and spiritual person. > > Q :- Were you the only son or you had siblings ? > > SG :- No. I had two brothers and one sister. > > Q :- So, When did you meet RAHMAN ? > > SG :- It was a long back story. It was 1993. I remember , Rahman's Roja > Film music was released. Few people were talking in Bombay. New boy coming > out with a genius quality in him, compared to other Music Director. So, I > was coming from Mysore to Bangalore. At that time, in the car, the driver > was playing songs of Roja. The songs were being played, and I asked him > whose film it is ?. He says that it is A.R. Rahman from Madras. I said, " ya > ya. I have heard his name". So, I kept hearing those songs. So, it was two > to three hours journey. So, I heard two three times. I could see a lot of > talent, innovative quality because I have been trained under Laxmikanth > Pyaralal for 20 years, and I had music sense from my childhood. So I had > developed an ear for music. I talked to him; I love your music and am > planning a film. I would like to have your services as Music Composer. So, > he was quite excited and he said, " Even I love your Film " Hero", and I > used to play Hero's tunes, while I was a keyboard player. So, immediately, > we clicked with each other. It was a very mutual admiration for each other, > and when I met him, I could see his clean and Divine qualities in this man. > > I remember when he said, " Lets do a good job". I talked to him about > money. How much money I should pay?. He says, " Lets do a good music. We > shall talk about it later". So I understood his character, and that he is > more passionate about his work. And i started blending with him, and we > started to work on a film called SHIKHAR, which finally couldnt place. But > then , it happened in TAAL. > > I would say, that I was the first from the Hindi Film Industry who noticed > him from the Bombay Industry and who came to work with him, and everyone in > Bombay Industry was surprised to see me coming down and working with a South > Indian Music Director. There were frowns and questions in Bombay, as to how > a Music Director from South India, could make music for a Hindi Film, and > find a place in Hindi Industry. > > In Hindi Music, there is always a Northern Music which is dominating. So, > they were wondering, How I am going to justify ?. So, I told him, " Dont > worry. YOu know the Indian Classical and Western Music well". And he really > proved , while recording two songs . Ishq Bina Jeena Kya " was recorded > first, which I later on recorded in Taal. This song initially did not belong > to Taal. It was recorded for Shikhar. So, I could see the new kind of > vibrations and growth in me, treating myself. > > We were colleagues, and not Guru. I could suggest him, the way Bolly wood > works, the way Punjabi or Bengali music works. I learnt a lot of things from > him, and of course can say, we shared knowledge together. It was always > mutual respect, appreciations and admirations. Things really made fine > strongly after TAAL. His music is always very challenging. A big Challenge > for a Director to picturise, and he comes out with a different kind of a > sound, different kind of phrases, which excites you, grows on you, on your > minds. by gradual time. First time, you may feel little offensive hearing > the sound, the kind of phrase it is. But when you listen it more, two three > four times, it goes on for ever. The quality in his music is that Divinity > in every song. be it be any song; A folk number or a dance number. He is at > peace and there is something very attractive , very spiritual. Spirituality > within himself has paid him a lot , and is revealed in his songs. I can > understand, that sad songs will have some sort of spirituality in them, but > having that quality in dancing numbers is ver rare. The Josh is there, but > peace always prevails. Thats the thing which I always admire in him. > > The relationship between me and him is quite envious to other Directors. > > Q :- How does your composing go ? > > SG :- There is a secret. But anyway, I would like to share it here with > you. When I narrated full script to him, I told him the mood of the music. > From the musical point of view, I narrated the script. The situations which > are going to dominate. So that he gets an idea from me that this film > requires this. When I write a script, I think of music. There is rough kind > of structure, impression of music in my mind. and those impressions I pass > it out to my music Composer. I narrate the mood of the songs which I want; > Humming songs etc > > The First song that was recorded for Taal was " Kareye Naa", and he had a > very tough time, because I had given him some very interior traits of a > Punjabi song. Though, he did not pick up any note from that song. He just > listened to it, and was quite panicky as to how to do that song. I remember > the trauma in his face while doing that song. But when he came out with that > song, it was so brilliant. Actually, he had given me tune. I had given that > tune to Anand Bakshi. Finally, when it came out, it was one of the most > brilliant songs . Sometimes, he composes three four tunes for me, and then > he leaves the studio, leaving the tape recorder with me, and I listen four > five tunes. , and pick the ones, which matches to my story. All four tunes > are good, but it has to match to my story. > > Some tunes, I used to tell him to keep it for me for my next film, ( though > it was not matching for that particular story at present) . Then he keeps > smiling and says, " Sir. there are other producers too". I remember Taal > song. For Nahi Sammne song, I told him that it should be a sad song, and I > wanted something like John Alton singing, How John Alton sings. His kind of > songs. he looked at me, " Ok I understand . What you mean ". So , he told me > to give him the lyrics first. So I told Anand Bakshi to write the lyrics , > and he took the lyrics and started singing in that style. That song had come > out so brilliantly, and its my most favourite song in that film. > > Most of the Films, Rahman has been excellent. In totality, he is an > excellent composer. But it all depends sometimes on the story, The > director's demand, the producer and he has to work accordingly. Its not > independent music alone. It is working with the team. But, the tracks of > Bombay shocked and amazed me, when I listened to the full track. I think > Bombay is the best track, he has produced. So many other movies are there. > But Bombay was a complete Album, including the Background Score. I still > have the Background Score Album with me. He had given to me. He has always > been brilliant with Maniratnam. Their rapport has been good always. > > I hope I am doign Yuvraaj, and am trying to produce a good musical for that > film. Working with Rahman is a big challenge as a Director. You are > answerable to his compositions on the screen. That keeps me worried all the > time. > > Unfortunately, I couldnt learn music. I have developed a ear for music. I > have listened to all kinds of music. I have huge collections of music all > over the world. Though I dont know much of Western Music, if you come to my > home, you can find a huge collection of Western Music collections.* I like > the sound part of it. and that can be found in YUvraaj a lot. He has done a > brilliant job in YUVRAAJ. * > * * > I think of the full Universe while making a film. I will always desire to > make Indian movies, and not an international film. Films is about people, > and you are expressing the story through your films, which have to suit your > own audiences. *People expect a Commercial Quality as well as a Box > Office, which is the biggest challenge for any Director, and which is > killing me in Yuvraaj.* > > Kisna was revealed to me much later. I have written a story and picked up a > script belonging to the 1930s. It was a period kind of a film. And the hero > of such a film, belonged to a different set of values. Those Values were to > serve and respect parents and the like etc . MY hero belonged to such > Values, which did not click with the youngsters of 2000s. One of my nieces > told me, that she didnt like my picture of Kisna. Why shouldnt the hero > accept the White Girl, , when she is asking him to go to London?. Why shoudl > he die going back, leading such a painful life ?. I told her that it was a > story of the great grandfathers. So, it was not in line with the modern > trend. > > I was very keen to work with Rahman. Rahman was the reeling force behind > it. I felt very bad, when my last film Shikhar was dropped, due to some > circumstances, and I had to make Pardes in between. So i did owe something > to rahman. I was making some historical films, and then decided that I must > make a musical film. A complete musical film. So I created a story, where > all characters were musical. Musical backdrop ; So, when you create all > these musical characters, you can pick up a thin story, so that you can > elucidate the music part of it. I kept the name as Taal, so that I can > commit to myself , and I came to Rahman and said, " Rahman . this is your > film. I have written a story. Its a very thin story. I am going to expand it > through music. I am very much depending on you, and you are going to be > responsible equally as I am. He took a challenge and TAal is in front of > you. > > I think Rahman is much ahead with respect to sound, or senstivity is > concerned. I used to attend each and every recording of my songs. I woudl > stay at his studio and wait, irrespective of whether musicians were there or > not. I would also watch and observe the sound recording part of it. This > precisely the reason, why I and Rahman enjoy together. Nobody can beat > Rahman, as far as the sound is concerned. > > Rahman is an artist who can connect with God and this world in equal > confidence. I am proud of Rahman, that he has thought over this idea about > this Km Music Conservatory, and he has been sharing this idea , since I > opened a International Film & Television Institute in Bombay. I have been > sharing this idea of opening a school for the past 15 years. He came and > visited the place. He is so thankful to God that he wants to share something > with the society. I know its not going to be a commercial viable proposition > for him. He is doing it for his passion. and its goodness in him, in sharing > this with the younger generation. He is earning whatever is sufficient for > an achiever. This is really a great and commendble job. I beleive the > students must utilise it to the maximum extent, as everytime you wont get > Rahman. > > -- > regards, > Vithur > > Whatever God wants to give, no one can deny; Whatever God wants to deny, no > one can give. Be happy always > >