Well said, buddy. You've spoken my mind..!! In IR's era, there were no competition at all. He surpassed MSV; no one else other than IR that time.
Also IR delivered whatever he wished to deliver. For the very same reason, he had fight with atmost all top directors in Tamil. Hindi cinema was there even when IR was ruling in TN. Why hindi directors did not use him or why IR did not compose for hindi movies? The reason is well known; In my opinion I think hindi directors thought IR cannot compose for hindi movies and cannot satisfy hindi audience. On the other hand, ARR has lots and lots of competitions; even people started comparing ARR with international MDs. Still he satisfies everyone with his melody. ARR is international MD now. He can compose for any language and any group of people. Everybody knows IR is a genius (when nobody was there for competition); it does not mean that ARR is not. Cheers, Siraj On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:05 AM, rayrai2k <ravis...@gmail.com> wrote: > King of melody & Harmony. But how do you separate one from the other? > Its quiet untrue that IR didn't get to work with lot of people, > during his era he literally had worked with every director. He has > experimented too. But there I have a different opinion though. > IR while in his peak had made ppl listen to what he wished to. AR on > the other hand is very keen in knowing what ppl want and he > convincingly takes his audience to what he does. IR had no such > competition but AR is engulfed with many who try to imitate him but > this man is different every time. I don't have any doubt to call both > IR & AR as genius. > Long ago AR was been told as a fast food, yes he is. His success is > in the fact that he keeps trying to understand and then deliver. He > experiments and innovates. If the writer is so keen in listing IR > could interestingly experiment on 3 notes. How abt AR using > Shivaranjini much different than anybody did? How abt a song with no > percussion. Experiment has no limits according to me, it only need a > wish to conduct, resources are available everywhere. > If AR is brandished as his specialty was just bcs of fine recording, > I would say let it be. Everybody recorded but it demanded and still > demands AR to get the best, means he has his virtue to utilize H > Sridhar. > AR is still good in melodies, undoubtedly. His experiments may not be > impressive to the strict music teachers. But it definitely teaches > the beginners that there is lot to explore. > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>, > Vithur <vith...@...> wrote: > > > > I was elated to hear that AR Rahman won a Golden globe.[image: ARR - > > Illayaraja] > > > > > It's great and in this context let me bring the (fuel the) most > debated > > topic or comparison. Who is the best music composer in India? > Rahman or > > Ilayaraja? (Leaving other options for simple reason that I don't > know much > > to discuss) > > > > More comparisons are drawn between these two legends because of the > fact > > that they are from same part of the country. So I propose to put > forth some > > of the things I feel are worth considering, which will definitely > help you > > chose your favorite among them. > > > > The most striking similarity between both of them is unmatched > genius, which > > revolutionized the Indian music arena. Both of their works reach > one and all > > without any boundaries, which placed them, much above their > contemporaries. > > > > Ilayaraja entered the industry when songs in movies were not of that > > prominence in the films like when they used to be in the golden era > of black > > and whites. Songs were more like cigarette breaks in the films. > Entry of > > Illayaraja, with melody as his forte, people started loving his > songs. He > > enjoyed a star status in Tamil Nadu with his large cutouts being > erected at > > theatres in that time. > > > > So perfect in his composition, (hear > > this)<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwGeHvOCxfQ>Ilayaraja could > play > > the same notes in different ways that we cannot make a > > difference. He is the one to introduce western instrumentation to > south > > Indian film music using electric and bass guitar extensively (hear > > this)<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMnUzteR2-w>. > > > But he always made sure that the soul of his tune is completely > classical > > though polished by western. > > > > Rahman's entry was at a time when music had its recognition in the > films. He > > completely changed the face of Indian music with extensive use of > technology > > and impeccable recording quality with the resources available. He > got a > > jumpstart with Roja and never looked back, became a god to music > lovers in > > no time. > > > > Many music directors till date fall flat trying to imitate Rahman. > He > > completely changed the old typical format of "mukhda antara mukhda" > in the > > songs. A lot of experimentation with multiple singers, varied > instruments, > > fusion, and the scale attempting classical, Hindustani, western > classical, > > jazz, rock what not. > > > > Like Melody has been key to Illayaraja's songs, Harmony plays a key > role in > > Rahman's songs. > > > > Illayaraja composed songs, which can be remembered even after > centuries for > > their melodious tunes. However, he did not get a chance to work > with a > > variety of directors, except Maniratnam, Bharatiraja, Vamsi, > Vishwanath. > > Music given to each had its own flavour in tune with the director's > taste. > > > > For instance nobody can expect the > > first<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqo_fzg37z8&feature=related>and > > second <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuMaEdEcx9w> are from the > same > > composer. His key focus was to never leave the melody in the song, > even in > > if there is no big situation in the movie to inspire him. Watch this > > song, Malli > > Malli <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y45g1bXR2o>. > > > > Rahman on the other hand had it ranging from Maniratnam to Shankar > to > > Ashutosh Gowarikar. This helped him to induce a lot of variety from > > Sivaji<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQXAHfS25gU>to > > Khwajaji <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvTkgLpN4BU>. It's like he > has no > > boundaries and can attempt anything, which is a rare quality in a > composer. > > But again, he still has signature on the song with his harmony you > can say > > it's a 'Rahman song'. > > > > Finally, in my view, Illayaraja can be called as a King of Melody > and > > Rahman, the king of Harmony! > > > > Hail! ARR! Hail! Illayaraja > > http://indiaspecial.net/entertainment/what-prevails-illayarajayam- > or-rahmania/ > > > > -- > > regards, > > Vithur > > > > >
