What about those of us who only get that blinding flash of inspiration as 
soon as we click send?

Nick

On Tue, 9 May 2006 08:23:46 -0700, Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Preach it, brother!  I'm not the admin, nor am I Claire (there could
>only one Claire!), so I'll let others admonish people like Carl to
>actually contribute something before insulting longtime and substantial
>contributors like Phil.
>
>But Phil and Gidd are right, and it's high time for some people to get a
>wake-up call with a clue-by-4.
>
>** DISCLAIMER **  This does NOT apply to about 98% of the posters to
>this list.  This is not telling newbies "Go away".  This is not an
>attempt to scare anyone away.  My stated comments are my own.
>
>Here's the progression, for those apparently new to such processes.
>
>1) You encounter a problem with a Remedy product.
>2) You try to fix it yourself.
>3) You seek help from your co-workers (if any).
>4) You read the manuals and check the Remedy KB to see if there's some
>tidbit of information that might help with that process.
>5) Repeat steps 2-4 at least until the most apparent solutions have been
>tried.
>6) You contact Remedy Support and/or the list.
>7) You (probably) receive help from Remedy Support and/or the list.
>
>The ARSList is here to help people who have first made a substantial
>effort to help themselves.  It is intended to be an aid to, not a
>substitute for, learning how to do your job.  While we were all newbies
>at some point, and we don't mind helping other newbies gain experience,
>there are a few people, including several from an offshore organization,
>who have shown a consistent pattern of asking basic questions to the
>list instead of taking the time to read the manuals provided with the
>product, and to actually grow their skills beyond that of newbie.
>
>Were I one of these few individuals, or an employee of this
>organization, I would hope that I would do what most posters do here -
>display to the rest of my professional community that I had the skills
>and initiative to at least learn to code my way out of a wet paper bag
>with a map, a knife, and a flashlight.  Remedy isn't THAT hard to learn.
>
>Executive Summary: Please respect the time of those who are trying to
>help others by trying to help yourself first.
>
>Sergeant-at-Arms:  Haul these miscreants away...  :)
>
>Rick
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gidd Calden
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:12 AM
>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.
>
>Carl,
>
>Do you mean that physically or verbally ?  
>
>In defense of Phil, and he needs no defense, he makes a good Point. 
> 
>While it is often easier to ask a question on the list, perhaps  that
>should be preceded by the requestor's research including looking at  a
>manual once in awhile.  There are more then a few listers that have a
>tendency to ask a question and then wait for the reply and not do any
>self  help on their side....  YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE ! 
>
>Claire, chime in here if I am to far out in left field?  Doh !!
>
>Has Remedy stopped shipping pdf guides, manuals and reference materials
>now?
>
>My .02
>
>Regards...Gidd
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Reenus
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 5:40 AM
>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.
>
>Ha, what an ass!
>
>
>>From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>Subject: Re: Pager Notifications.
>>Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 23:05:45 -0400
>>
>>Got a manual?  Ever read it?  Been to training?  We have, try it.
>>-----Original message-----
>>From: Mallikharjunudu_Chidella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Date: Mon,  8 May 2006 22:36:21 -0400
>>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>Subject: Pager Notifications.
>>
>>:-) Hi list,
>>:-)
>>:-)
>>:-) SLA have 2 notification one is "Email" and the other is "Pager". 
>>Email
>>:-) Notification can be created using "Send Alert or Email" and for 
>>pager we :-) should use "Send Page or Run Process" option to create 
>>pager :-) notification through command line statement to send a page or
>
>>run an :-) executable.
>>:-)
>>:-) Can you please let me know about the command line statement to be 
>>given
>>:-) in the "Send Page or Run Process" for the pager notification.
>>:-)
>>:-) Thanks in  advance. :o)
>>:-)
>>:-) Thanks
>>:-)
>>:-) Malli
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