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And that's why I said I wasn't sure I buy into it.....
 
I just don't want everyone to get there shorts all bunged up just yet.  This is a Rumor folks.  Not the first time we have heard this kind of rumor either!  Not saying it won't happen, not saying if it does it will be a bad thing or a good thing.  Just saying "let's see what happens".
 
Warren

 
On 9/7/06, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Warren:
 
Not to expand on this but note my reply to Claire. 
 
And there are books and articles on the reverse.  Dell decided to shutdown the Austin, Texas call center. A very large customer called in to a high level executive advising them that that company was cancelling their present order and would not buy anymore Dell products.  In about three weeks, there were ads in the papers advising that the call center was reopening and that former Dell employees would be rehired without any loss of time (as if they were not laid off in the first place.) 

 
James McKenzie
 

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Keynote Speaker - Geoffrey Moore , Managing Director, TCG Advisors and Author of Crossing the Chasm
 
He talked about how Outsourcing is not neccesarily a bad thing.  It allows the organization to refocus on new tasks by retasking those who were doing support.  I'm not sure I buy into all of it.  And this is not a very good explanation of an hour long talk.  Anybody else care to explain mr. Moore's ideas?

 
Warren

 


On 9/7/06, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

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        Warren:
         
        Details for those of us not able to go to BUW?
         
        James McKenzie

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        Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!


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        Well....
         
        That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's true).  I wouldn't freak just yet.
         
        Warren

               
        On 9/7/06, Jamahowal Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

                Hello community,
               
                I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be
                starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very
                shortly.
               
                Am I the only one who is outraged by this?
               
                Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy
                Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company
                will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be
                diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance fees
                will not be discounted.
               
                So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support but
                they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our
                maintenance contract before I was told of this!).
               
                In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR
                System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure. If
                BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and outsourcing
                it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of Remedy
                professionals next to the engineers themselves.
               
                What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO
                IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy
                support infrastructure.
               
                I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regarding
                this direction.
               
                If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product, which
                is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to
                seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely where
                they have on-site American/English speaking professionals - not underpayed
                call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no understanding and no context
                of the platform, and no relationships & restricted escalation paths with the
                Remedy software engineering community.
               
                As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I am
                insulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback on
                this initiative.
               
                What does everyone else think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)
               
                What can we do to get BMC to keep their existing support infrastructure and
                stop them from farming out their support to people who can not even speak
                clear American English?
               
                JP
               
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        School of Medicine
        University of Washington
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School of Medicine
University of Washington
Box 358220
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Remedy Developer
UW Medicine IT Services
School of Medicine
University of Washington
Box 358220
1325 Fourth Ave, Suite 2000
Seattle, WA 98101

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