While on this subject, and I apologize for the hijack.



We currently have our midtiers load balanced as well as our apptiers.

The apptiers and midtier load balancing uses sticky bit.



If we do not close our browsers and try to log on after sessions expire we get 
dumped into the midtier AR authentication page instead of the SAML redirect 
until we clear cache.



Perhaps a problem with apptier load balancing?



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Subject: Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question

>From the Mid-Tier side, you also might want to review your setttings as 
>described here to work with the load balancer settings:

https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/ars81/Configuring+the+mid+tier+connection+pool

https://docs.bmc.com/docs/brid91/en/configuring-the-mid-tier-connection-pool-610403150.html

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 8:16 AM, Aspari Sunil Kumar 
<sunil.a...@gmail.com<mailto:sunil.a...@gmail.com>> wrote:
There isn't much can be done in mid tier.this is purely LB team need to analyse 
what is going wrong . Need to sit with them and see why all the connections are 
going to one server in reality with the help of logs.. we had strange problem 
recently that on 2 AR servers we used to see same set of users .. we fixed this 
after lot of analysis with LB team


On Feb 1, 2018 7:09 PM, "LJ LongWing" 
<lj.longw...@gmail.com<mailto:lj.longw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I've always preferred to use least connections personally, but from what I've 
read of the docs they recommend round robin....but round robin doesn't explain 
how your LB would be putting everyone on one node...it should literally go 1, 
2, 3, 1, 2, 3 for new connections, and as you discussed, keep you on your 
current server if you are within the timeout, but you should have fairly even 
load across nodes....do they keep logs of the monitor activity so you can 
review if the monitor is reporting a server as down during specified periods?  
What monitor style are you using, ping, tcpip port, something else?

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 9:00 AM, Thomas Miskiewicz 
<tmisk...@gmail.com<mailto:tmisk...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hey LJ and thank you for the prompt reply.

Talked to them already. We’re using round robin. I’m not an expert on LB but my 
understanding was that we would have about an equal amount of users on all AR 
Servers using it.

The guy explained that once you connect there is a time out of 180 seconds. If 
you do something within the 180 seconds you will end up on the same server. If 
you don’t they will balance. Sounds plausible. Any yet what’s the likelihood 
that people then will be balanced on the second box and not the third.

Does anyone there use round robin as well? How do your users get distributed? 
What are you Mid Tier settings, connection settings in particular?


Thomas



On Feb 1, 2018, at 4:49 PM, LJ LongWing 
<lj.longw...@gmail.com<mailto:lj.longw...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thomas,
You'll need to work with the LB team to identify what distribution method they 
are using....common options are 'round robin' in which it just simply points 
everything at each server in turn, 'least connections' where it tries to 
analyze how many are 'currently' connected to each node and send the traffic to 
the one with the least current load....you'll also want to check and verify 
that the monitor that you are using to determine if a node is online or not is 
functioning properly because if the LB monitor says a node is down, it 
obviously won't send any traffic to it...but if that monitor is faulty, it 
might be up and running but not reporting as online and can cause the scenario 
you described...

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Thomas Miskiewicz 
<tmisk...@gmail.com<mailto:tmisk...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Listers,

we got a physical load balancer before the Mid-Tier servers and a logical load 
balancer between the Mid Tier and our AR Servers.

We noticed that on some days all the users land on only one AR Server. On other 
days two. What’s the reason behind it? What do we need to configure and to 
enforce equal distribution?


Thomas
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