No, that's gonna be your Mid-Tier LB that's doing that...maybe not the LB
itself, but the login is most certainly at the MT level, not the app level.

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Kevin M Candelaria <ke...@temple.edu>
wrote:

>
>
> While on this subject, and I apologize for the hijack.
>
>
>
> We currently have our midtiers load balanced as well as our apptiers.
>
> The apptiers and midtier load balancing uses sticky bit.
>
>
>
> If we do not close our browsers and try to log on after sessions expire we
> get dumped into the midtier AR authentication page instead of the SAML
> redirect until we clear cache.
>
>
>
> Perhaps a problem with apptier load balancing?
>
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> *From:* ARSList <arslist-boun...@arslist.org> on behalf of Randeep Atwal <
> ratwals...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:43 AM
> *To:* ARSList
> *Subject:* Re: Loadbalancer traffic distribution question
>
> From the Mid-Tier side, you also might want to review your setttings as
> described here to work with the load balancer settings:
>
> https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/ars81/Configuring+the+mid+tier+
> connection+pool
>
> https://docs.bmc.com/docs/brid91/en/configuring-the-mid-
> tier-connection-pool-610403150.html
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 8:16 AM, Aspari Sunil Kumar <sunil.a...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> There isn't much can be done in mid tier.this is purely LB team need to
>> analyse what is going wrong . Need to sit with them and see why all the
>> connections are going to one server in reality with the help of logs.. we
>> had strange problem recently that on 2 AR servers we used to see same set
>> of users .. we fixed this after lot of analysis with LB team
>>
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2018 7:09 PM, "LJ LongWing" <lj.longw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've always preferred to use least connections personally, but from what
>> I've read of the docs they recommend round robin....but round robin doesn't
>> explain how your LB would be putting everyone on one node...it should
>> literally go 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3 for new connections, and as you discussed,
>> keep you on your current server if you are within the timeout, but you
>> should have fairly even load across nodes....do they keep logs of the
>> monitor activity so you can review if the monitor is reporting a server as
>> down during specified periods?  What monitor style are you using, ping,
>> tcpip port, something else?
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 9:00 AM, Thomas Miskiewicz <tmisk...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey LJ and thank you for the prompt reply.
>>>
>>> Talked to them already. We’re using round robin. I’m not an expert on LB
>>> but my understanding was that we would have about an equal amount of users
>>> on all AR Servers using it.
>>>
>>> The guy explained that once you connect there is a time out of 180
>>> seconds. If you do something within the 180 seconds you will end up on the
>>> same server. If you don’t they will balance. Sounds plausible. Any yet
>>> what’s the likelihood that people then will be balanced on the second box
>>> and not the third.
>>>
>>> Does anyone there use round robin as well? How do your users get
>>> distributed? What are you Mid Tier settings, connection settings in
>>> particular?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2018, at 4:49 PM, LJ LongWing <lj.longw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thomas,
>>> You'll need to work with the LB team to identify what distribution
>>> method they are using....common options are 'round robin' in which it just
>>> simply points everything at each server in turn, 'least connections' where
>>> it tries to analyze how many are 'currently' connected to each node and
>>> send the traffic to the one with the least current load....you'll also want
>>> to check and verify that the monitor that you are using to determine if a
>>> node is online or not is functioning properly because if the LB monitor
>>> says a node is down, it obviously won't send any traffic to it...but if
>>> that monitor is faulty, it might be up and running but not reporting as
>>> online and can cause the scenario you described...
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Thomas Miskiewicz <tmisk...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Listers,
>>>>
>>>> we got a physical load balancer before the Mid-Tier servers and a
>>>> logical load balancer between the Mid Tier and our AR Servers.
>>>>
>>>> We noticed that on some days all the users land on only one AR Server.
>>>> On other days two. What’s the reason behind it? What do we need to
>>>> configure and to enforce equal distribution?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thomas
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