Your experienced Michelle, if you can only take one, take Part 3.  Part 3 is
a more advanced version of Part 2 plus things that weren't covered in Part
2.  Like the old Advanced Topics class.

Susan


On 2/19/07, Lucero, Michelle - IST contractor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

** A question for those that have taken any 7.x classes.

If one was limited by funds, which 7.x class would you recommend? In other
words if one might have to pay out of their own pocket for a class?
(Hopefully, that is tax deductible.)

Which ONE of these three would be a best fit for a long-time (2.x - 6.3)
Remedy Developer?
What's New in 7.x
Remedy Admin II
or, Remedy Admin III

The last official Remedy course taken was the week long, "AR System Delta
5.X & Web Deployment".  However, I've been working with 6.3 since the
early limited release launch in Feb 2005.  I've poked around and have read a
bit of the manuals in 7.x, but haven't launched anything in production,
yet.

On a similar note, it looks like Column is offering Admin II for 7.x in
Dallas.  I've heard through the grapevine that they would consider adding an
Admin III for 7.x in Dallas as well.  I would prefer to go to Pleasanton,
but could see the class, hotel, airfare, etc. getting up to $5000.--.  I
just can't afford that out of my own pocket.

Thanks,
Michelle



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** The one improvement of sorts was in the labs.  You had your choice of
using the step by step detailed instructions, or you could use the advanced
exercise that did not fill in all the steps for you actually causing some
required thinking.

I've taken Admin 1-2-3 in v2, 3, 4, 4.5 and now 7.  I've always found them
a nice review.  Of course each year you know more and more but there are
always new features and then there are the features you may not have had an
opportunity to use.  Can you have too much education?  Of course you can go
through the manuals page by page and make sure you understand everything in
them, but how many people actually do that.  You spend the time in class
focusing on the subject matter and also thinking about how you're going to
apply it back on the job.  The thinking time you are allowed in class is
very valuable to your job also.  Sometimes we get in ruts doing things the
same way when there's a new and better way.

Of course this is just my opinion and I always felt that a good foundation
in a new subject meant more success and better development along the way.

Susan


On 2/19/07, Dave Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ** Hopefully my colleague and I will be doing some v7 admin training
> some time quite soon - are the courses similar structure to the v5 courses?
>
> Its a few years since I did my v5 training (part 1 & 2), and I'd like it
> if the courses weren't aimed so much at total noobs to the environment,
> although maybe thats more for the part 3 course?  Would I be right in
> assuming that a lot of the people now attending v7 courses are likely to
> have had years of experience on v5/6 releases?
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
>
>
> On 18/02/07, Susan Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > ** I just finished taking the v7 Admin Part 3 in Downer's Grove with
> > Dan Gerrish.  I also had him last year for Part 2.  Dan did a great job.
> > The part 2 class was quite large (14) and he managed the time line very
> > well.  This past class was very small and was a lot of fun since we were all
> > experienced and dictated the speed.  Dan gives a very clear explanation and
> > is able to answer questions thoroughly.  As will all classroom settings
> > wierd things happen and those were all investigated and a resolution/cause
> > determined.  We didn't feel rushed nor held back.
> >
> > I took a class with Lenny years ago and it's true, he is great ....
> > but very hard to get a class with.  Lenny was just recently promoted and
> > although will still be teaching it is likely that task will be diminished.
> >
> > Now if you're talking location and t&e is no issue nor time away, then
> > Pleasanton would be my first choice.  Been there many times and it's always
> > great.
> >
> > Quite frankly, although the instructor is important ...what's really
> > important is how you take in the information and the questions you ask to
> > insure you understand what you're learning and how you're going to apply it
> > back on the job.  The composition of the class is also important to how it
> > goes.  I prefer a group that wants to learn not just show off hoping to get
> > your future business.
> >
> > Good luck in your choice,
> > Susan
> >
> > On 2/18/07, Roger Justice <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >
> > > ** Lenny is the best all others were probably trained by him.
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