> You wouldn't even have to use Service Desk if you didn't want to, have your CMDB and save a ton of cash. Actually, you couldn't. As stated, CMDB is provided at no additional cost only when used in conjunction with another BMC product. Use of CMDB standalone when provided as part of, say, Service Desk is prohibited. The restriction is a business licensing restriction (sometimes called a "paper license") and not a technical one. (i.e. you can technically do it - but if you're audited by BMC, you'll need to show usage of Service Desk with CMDB or you'll be charged for CMDB.) CMDB Enterprise Manager, obviously, does not have this restriction. If you choose to purchase CMDB Enterprise Manager, you would be completely licensed to use it standalone and CMDB Enterprise Manager includes the utilities/products necessary to manage and integrate with the CMDB in a standalone environment. Another subtle difference is that the CMDB that comes with purchase of another BMC product (e.g. Service Desk) is considered to use a "Foundation" license. While currently this license option does not limit functions within the CMDB itself, BMC could choose to do so in the future (e.g. limit the # of nodes within the CMDB if only a foundational license is present). The CMDB Enterprise Manager would not have such restrictions as it would have an "Enterprise" license. Recognizing that BMC has the #1 rank in market share for a CMDB and BMC had a great fiscal year, it may not be such strange business logic. ;-) However it would be inappropriate for me to comment further on current or future BMC business strategy in a public forum. Thanks, -David J. Easter Sr. Product Manager, Service Management Business Unit BMC Software, Inc. The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. ________________________________
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Rosenberry Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 6:24 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC Atrium CMDB Costs? ** That still doesn't make business sense to me. Why would you ever purchase the BMC Atrium standalone at that price when you could purchase Service Desk at a fraction of the cost and have the BMC Atrium included. You wouldn't even have to use Service Desk if you didn't want to, have your CMDB and save a ton of cash. Just another example of BMCs strange business logic or is there more to it than that? On 6/15/07, P Romain ARSlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess the issue BMC are facing is that Atrium has no user licences so the only 'standard' source of revenue is the application license itself. -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sanders Sent: 15 June 2007 13:25 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC Atrium CMDB Costs? Oops - my bad. $100k is per instance, and $1.2M is per site licensing. David Sanders Remedy Solution Architect Enterprise Service Suite @ Work ========================== ARS List Award Winner 2005 Best 3rd party Remedy Application See the ESS Concepts Guide tel +44 1494 468980 mobile +44 7710 377761 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] web http://www.westoverconsulting.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: David Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:21 PM To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ' Subject: RE: BMC Atrium CMDB Costs? Hi Carey I can't answer your question about the difference in name, but the cost of "BMC Atrium CMDB Enterprise Manager" is I think $100k per site, or $1.2M for an enterprise license. Plus costs per endpoint, like $150 per server managed, $10 per desktop, etc. Regards David Sanders Remedy Solution Architect Enterprise Service Suite @ Work ========================== ARS List Award Winner 2005 Best 3rd party Remedy Application See the ESS Concepts Guide tel +44 1494 468980 mobile +44 7710 377761 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] web http://www.westoverconsulting.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> ] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:41 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: BMC Atrium CMDB Costs? David, And not to split hairs... but.... Is there any difference between: "BMC Atrium CMDB Enterprise Manager" and "Atrium CMDB" (that comes with any portion of ITSM) ? This question was discussed at last years RUG and no real answer was supplied. (Or I at least did not get the answer.) I mean if the cost of the "Enterprise Manger" is 1.2M and the cost of Service Desk is more like.... 120K (Which should be a reasonable set a user license for the SD application too.) then why would anyone buy "Enterprise Manger"? Why not just buy Service Desk and not use the Service Desk application? -- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. On 6/14/07, Easter, David < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > ** > > > So the ITSM suite is not inclusive, with just this package? > > BMC Atrium CMDB Enterprise Manager does not include ITSM. > > However, if you buy an ITSM application like Asset Management it will > include the Atrium CMDB. > > > -David J. Easter > Sr. Product Manager, Service Management Business Unit > BMC Software, Inc. ________________________________________________________________________ ____ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ________________________________________________________________________ ____ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ________________________________________________________________________ _______ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" __20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
