Actually, my ITIL training involved a Quake Team Arena simulator
instead.  :-)

Just kidding, but the "flight simulator" is supposed to be the airport
simulation.  The airport simulation is basically just a more complex
version of that game where you have a line of kids passing a message
down the line, where it gets scrambled worse each time.  ITIL supposedly
helps stop the scrambling of the message.



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Excuse my ignorance, but there's a flight simulator in BMC's ITIL
training?!

I remember a BMC sales guy mention something about an airport
simulation, but never anything about a flight simulator.

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I don't know if this is done for everyone, but our BMC sales rep
arranged for the I.T. management of my company to get the flight
simulation portion free.  It doesn't hurt that we're up the street from
BMC's headquarters, but they might be able to arrange something like
that.  ITIL doesn't work if only the Remedy folks are on board.  You
basically need everyone in I.T. to get certified before it starts to
become useful.

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        Ah - quite right - the Flight Sim is definitely a classroom
situation.  I highly recommend it, though, for those who can bring an
ITIL instructor on site.

        Rick
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        Rick, you are probably talking about on-site course.

        My best guess is the BMC's WBT doesn't have the BMC Flight
Simulator. Can anybody confirm?



        On 8/22/07, Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

                **
                I took BMC's a year or so ago - if you get the one with
the BMC Flight Simulator in it, I found that to be a big help, as did
the rest of the class, in making ITIL more tangible.  It did include a
proctored (required for cert) exam at the end.

                Rick
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                Listers,
                I am trying to figure out the best place to take web
based ITIL Foundation course. BMC's seems to be a terrible deal.

                BMC offers Web Based ITIL Foundation course for US $499,
with 16 hours of course material, no exam. It appears that the course is
hosted at itsmcampus.com <http://itsmcampus.com/> .

http://services.bmc.com/education/register/class_details.cfm?orgin=Custo
mer&IDc=1&cid=90174166.0

                Going to itsmcampus.com <http://itsmcampus.com/>
directly redirects you to campus.itpreneurs.com
<http://campus.itpreneurs.com/itpreneurs/catalog/catalog_cart.aspx> ,
where a course with similar name and 16 hours of instructions, PLUS 1
hour for certification exam is available for $299.

http://campus.itpreneurs.com/itpreneurs/catalog/catalog_detail.aspx?prod
uctId=31&tabId=0


<http://campus.itpreneurs.com/itpreneurs/catalog/catalog_detail.aspx?pro
ductId=31&tabId=0>
                Is BMC's 16 hour course material the same as
itpreneurs.com <http://itpreneurs.com/> 's? The price difference is
huge. Is BMC offering other's course at an almost 100% markup?

                TIA.
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