The questions about timeouts and entries on the other table that I asked was
to check if it might be an indexing issue, where there might have been some
sort of search on that table before the push fields causing a table scan..
With 30 entries that should not be an issue..

The filter may fire twice if it is on submit and a part of a Filter Guide
that is called on Submit.. So it could fire on the execution order of the
filter on Submit, and then again when the Filter guide is called in which
this filter is a part of.

Check that..

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dwayne Martin
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:25 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Push field sometimes happens and sometimes doesn't


First of all, Thanks, Mike, for the info on Linux servers.  We just switched
from Unix to Linux.  Hope we haven't made a big mistake.

Joe,

>   When it doesn't get updated, does the filter log
>   show that the filter had fired to perform the push??

Yes, the filter log shows it pushing to the other form whether  the other
form gets updated or not.

>   Do you ever get ARERR 93 timeout errors during these
>   operations?

No, no timeout errors, or errors of any kind.

>   What is the record count of the form into which you
>   are performing these push actions?

30 entries

>   What is the Push Field If criteria?

 'PIQ ID' = $Other Call no$

"PIQ ID" is the renamed Entry ID field #1.  Workflow does show "Other Call
no" getting set correctly.  And the Push Fields is set to display "No Match"
error if it can't find the record, and we are not getting any error message.

Earlier I reported that the SQL updates are happening twice.  The filter log
shows that the filter itself sometimes fires twice and sometimes once.  The
filter is firing on Submit, so why would it fire twice?  Contrary to what I
reported yesterday, firing once or twice doesn't seem to have any affect on
whether or not the record gets updated.

Thanks,
Dwayne
---- Original message ----
>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:33:05 -0400
>From: "Joe D'Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Push field sometimes happens and sometimes doesn't
>To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>
>   **
>   When it doesn't get updated, does the filter log
>   show that the filter had fired to perform the push??
>
>   Do you ever get ARERR 93 timeout errors during these
>   operations?
>
>   What is the record count of the form into which you
>   are performing these push actions?
>
>   What is the Push Field If criteria?
>
>   Joe
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike
>   Ellertson
>   Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 5:06 PM
>   To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>   Subject: Re: Push field sometimes happens and
>   sometimes doesn't
>
>
>   Hi Dwayne,
>
>   It seems to me that if the SQL routine you specified
>   was executing twice, it should impact performance
>   but not the actual data.
>
>   But I can see you are running a Linux server.  I
>   have worked with several companies experiencing
>   weird Linux problems.  About a year ago BMC put a
>   special support swat team into place to address
>   Linux issues.  I would recommend you putting a call
>   into BMC Remedy support and having the issue
>   escalated to them.
>
>   Mike Ellertson
>   Bushido Technologies, Inc.
>   Phone: (949) 705-6991
>   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dwayne
>   Martin
>   Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 1:38 PM
>   To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>   Subject: Push field sometimes happens and sometimes
>   doesn't
>
>
>   Hello Everyone,
>
>   We have a push fields action to a diary form.  The
>   same filter is pushing from the same form in all
>   cases. Most of the time it works, but sometimes the
>   field does not get updated.  The filter log is
>   identical in both cases, and it clearly shows the
>   push taking place.
>
>   Both when it work and when it doesn't sql log shows
>   these actions:
>
>   SELECT C536870931 [the field getting updated] FROM
>   T580 WHERE C1 = 'PIQ00083'
>   UPDATE T580 SET C536870931 = EMPTY_CLOB() WHERE C1 =
>   'PIQ00083'
>   SELECT C536870931 FROM T580 WHERE C1 = 'PIQ00083'
>   FOR UPDATE
>   Set LOB into the above row ...
>
>   But in the cases where the update fails, the sql log
>   shows this routine happening twice.
>
>   What would make the routine happen twice? Could
>   second routine be overwriting the first?  And what
>   can I do to stop it?
>
>   (ARS 7.0.1 p2, Linux server, Oracle 10.2 db)
>
>   Dwayne Martin
>   Computing Support
>   James Madison University
>   __20060125_______________________This posting was
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Dwayne Martin
Computing Support
James Madison University

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