Woah! Hold the phone! You've been fair in quoting me up until this
point.

> My point is, and I'll state it again, I believe it is irresponsible
for
people to make statements about something, such as ITIL in this
instance,
that they have no proof of. Norm stated that he thought Patrick's
comments
were 100% correct. Patrick's comments were that

1. ITIL doesn't save money
2. ITIL doesn't save time
3. ITIL doesn't save energy
4. ITL doesn't make sense

My exact word-for-word statement was this: "And Pat is right--all change
costs money at some point in the change process."

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