Often here when Joe user is searching for tickets that are not Closed.
When Joe user tries it three times, which is usually the case, on a
table that has 1.6 million rows, and then some other users do other bad
queries at the same time we can see impact here. 


Darrell Reading Systems Engineer
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Uh...how often is that done by Average Joe User?

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The 'Field' != $VALUE$ he is referring to have to do with ENUM fields,
and that does do a table scan, because it grabs all records and then
disregards the != $VALUE$. It's better to do a <> on those fields.  We
have some pretty hefty systems here, and a few of the != searches can
hurt us if they are done right after each other.  One could make their
own Advanced Search bar, disable Remedy's, and build in logic to avoid
doing those kinds of search on certain fields.  It won't fix everything,
but it will help. 


Darrell Reading Systems Engineer
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Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
805 Moberly Lane, MS-0560-68
Bentonville, AR 72716
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I hate to be Mr. Obvious! It seems to me that attempting to disable
advanced searches is an act of desperation.  If you're so concerned
about users running advanced searches and eating up too much system
resources, perhaps either your system needs a major upgrade or it's not
tuned very well.

We have a single Remedy server here (and a separate Midtier)...Dell 2860
with 4GB RAM.  It supports 18,000+ users 24/7 and it runs like a champ.
I would never dream of disabling the query bar...if performance were an
issue, I'd look elsewhere...

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Nothing of course, but it would prevent searches like 'Field' != "value"
which if memory serves, ignores indexes.  Assuming it can be done
anyway.

Michael A. McManus, SSgt, USAF

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If you did that, then what would stop them from keying values in the
fields themselves?


Darrell Reading Systems Engineer
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Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
805 Moberly Lane, MS-0560-68
Bentonville, AR 72716
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Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 13:42
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Subject: Advanced Search Bar


**

Dear listers,

            It's been some time since anyone on my project has been to
the performance and tuning class and we're having some performance
issues at peak times.  I'm sure we're getting killed in multiple areas
(QBE settings, Indexing, etc.) but one of the questions I was asked is
about the Advanced Search Bar.  I did a quick scan of the docset and
didn't see an answer.  Is there any way to prevent users from using the
Advanced bar?  I see a menu for "Search Bar" in the form action fields,
but it's not checked on any of our forms.



Thanks much,



Michael A. McManus, SSgt, USAF



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