Hi Ravi

The Role name is not important - you could have a Role called Managers in
AppA and AppB.  The real identifier is the Role ID (negative number) and the
Application Name which identifies what application it belongs to.

HTH

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Subject: Re: Use of "Roles" in Deployable Application

LJ, David: thanks for your response. What if the role already exists in 
the destination server? Wouldn't I run into the same issue.

For example:
Source Server has a deployable application (appA) and a role (roleA). 
Let'z say this roleA has a group called Testers. I export this application.

Destination server already has a different application (appB) and a role 
(roleA). If I import the application here, wouldn't that mess up appB?

TIA
Ravi
LJ Longwing wrote:
> Additionally, Role ID's are specific to the application...which means that
a
> deployable application can be dropped onto a new server, and have the
roles
> mapped to existing groups on the new server without breaking anything.  If
> it's a local application then the permissions are tied to a group id...if
> the group id that the application uses is already in use on the
destination
> server...you are screwed...I believe that this architecture was setup so
> that Company A could sell an application to Company B without regard for
if
> the group ID's the application was built on are already in use on the
> destination server 
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ravi
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 11:34 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Use of "Roles" in Deployable Application
>
> Hi: I am trying to build a deployable application for the first time so I
> can migrate the application between test, development and production
remedy
> servers. I read through the docs couple of times and still can't seem to
> understand the usage of roles. I know users are part of one or more
> group(s). A role can have one group when in Test and another group when in
> Production. Is that all: All roles does is provide access to the
application
> to different set of users based on the deployable application state?
>
> So do the groups and roles have to exist on the destination arserver
before
> exporting an imported application from my test server to the development
> arserver?
>
> Also looks like the advantage of using deployable application instead of
> local application is that it can be licensesed and tracked. Is that the
only
> reason why someone would use deployable?
>
> TIA
> Ravi
>
>
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