Have you looked in the mid-tier logs at the time that the client doesn't
show the window properly?  And just for completeness sake...Server and
Mid-Tier version and OS? 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Blasquez
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Subject: Re: Midtier Issues Turn Into Gross BMC Incompetence

Thank you for the suggestions, unfortunately there is no smoking gun in the
logs.

It happens not only on a table drill down but also on a results list drill
down.  The only time it works as expected is when there is a results list on
top of the form, as in a standard search.  When you highlight a ticket
there, it populates the form underneath.  However, if you double-click the
same ticket from the same results list, the new window fails to populate the
data, and does not throw an error in either the server or midtier logs.

BTW, I have finished importing my workflow and form back into development
from production and the issue still exists.  So, whatever write operations
he hoped would clear the issue obviously did not work, as it has been blown
away and restored and is still exhibiting the same behavior.

-Paul

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Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:15 PM
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Subject: Re: Midtier Issues Turn Into Gross BMC Incompetence

I love a good rant against BMC Support as much as the next person, but I'd
like to see your problem resolved too.

Can you give us more information that might help determine what the problem
is?  To start, are you using the Drill Down on the Table Field, or are you
trying to open that record with an Active Link?  If it's via an Active Link,
can you send us more information on the Open Window command?

If I was in your shoes, I would run Active Link logs and try to reproduce it
in both the User Tool and on the Mid Tier, then compare those log files and
see what's happening.  My guess would be that something potentially happens
in one of those few areas where there is a difference in the two, such as
how Display/Windows Loaded for the Execute On are different, or perhaps the
timing works differently and some workflow that has a lower execution order
takes longer and a later one does it's action first, or something weird.
Still, it should be something you can figure out by looking at the logs from
both.

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Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:37 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Midtier Issues Turn Into Gross BMC Incompetence

Hello,

I'm a little upset here, as I have received instructions from BMC, that had
I carried them out blindly on my production server, would have completely
wiped out any workflow and data I had not backed up, and with no warning
from BMC.  I would like to share these instructions here, and get opinions
as to whether I am totally misunderstanding the instructions, or if I was
given incomplete and dangerous instructions by an incompetent BMC tech.

The problem was, originally, that when my form was called from the midtier
via a table or results list, the browser would display the form as blank
even though a specific request id was requested.  So, double click the
ticket, window opens, form is blank instead of filled in with that ticket's
contents. All workflow works fine in the user client.

So, after minor troubleshooting with BMC they finally request the .def file,
I send it.

They get back to me with the following instructions (object name replaced by
<FORM>):

1. Go to the Admin tool and open that form <FORM> and Save as that form with
the different name e.g. <FORM>-new 2. Rename original form <FORM> to
<FORM>-old 3. Now rename <FORM>-new to <FORM>.
4. Delete the form <FORM>
5. Rename <FORM>-old to <FORM>
6. Verify all the Active Links/Filters point to <FORM> 7. Export the *.def
file of <FORM> 8. Delete the form <FORM> 9. Create new form & name it <FORM>
10. Verify all the Active Links/Filter point to <FORM>


Now the issue with this, and thank goodness I did this on my development
server first, is that at step 8, YOU DESTROY ALL YOUR DATA AND WORKFLOW.

Making steps 9 and 10 irrelevant.

Even given the fact that I could have implied that at step 7 I should have
exported the entire workflow for that form, there is still no step that says
back up your data, and there are no steps explaining importing back your
workflow and data.

Please give me your points of view on this situation because I am trying to
not write a scathing email or make a hostile phone call right now.
____________
Paul Blasquez
Senior Network Engineer/Remedy Developer | Desk - 408.360.5220 | Cell -
408.627.5714

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