Thanks Strauss,
 
What would you rate your Mid-Tier's performance against the User Client
when using, lets say Incident Management as a Support Staff user? 1:2?
1:4? 
 
Also, the support tech I spoke with has no idea when BMC plan's to
support the 64-bit java virtual machines even with version 7.5. This
makes no sense to me because you think that fully supporting a 64-bit
environment would be a priority for an enterprise application right?
Thanks.

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I cannot address load balancing or the 64-bit JVM, but I have had very
good performance and stability (knock on wood) with mid-tier 7.1.00.002
on Win2K3 Enterprise R2 x64 using the 32-bit Tomcat 5.5.26 (app server
AND web server) on top of the 32-bit JDK 1.5.0_14.   I give the JVM 1536
mb min and max and a thread stack size of 3000, and I see it using about
900 mb max.  In our environment I have never seen it go over a gig, even
when pre-fetching the ITSM 7 applications, but it sounds like you will
have more load in terms of concurrent users.  Our mid-tier is just
serving 280 support staff users (55 licenses) using the Service Desk in
ITSM 7; the customers hit a Kinetic Request web on the same server which
runs on its own instance of Tomcat 5.5.20 (32-bit).  Hardware is an HP
DL380 G5 with two quad-core Xeons and 12 gb RAM, and it's just loafing.
BTW, the AR Server is also on Win2K3 Enterprise x64 (not R2, DL385, two
dual-core Opterons) using the 32-bit JVM, with memory usage usually 700
mb but it peaks to over 1,290 mb during a prefetch.

 

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/ <http://itsm.unt.edu/>  

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Subject: Question: Is anyone out there running Mid-Tier v7.1.0 on a
64-bit Windows 2003 OS with a 64-bit JVM?

 

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All,

 

I just got off the phone with BMC Technical Support and they told me
that they do not support nor recommend running Mid-Tier v7.1.0 on top of
a 64-bit Java Virtual Machine. The reason why they do not support this
is because their engineer's have not completed their testing Mid-Tier
7.1.0 with a 64-bit JVM. They did say that some of their customers are
running this configuration anyway and some are not running into any
issues but of course could not give me any people to talk too nor any
details. This is not good because the first time around I talked to
Remedy Support and they assured me that they supported 64-bit OS's and
that the server configuration below would handle what we want to
accomplish so, confidently I ordered the servers. Now, to my surprise, I
caught a sub-clause in their compatibility matrix that said they do not
support the 64-bit JVM. This is bad news.

 

I would like to know if there is anyone out there that has this setup
(below) or something like it, and I would like to know, if any, what
bugs have you experienced with running Mid-Tier over a 64-bit JVM? 

 

We plan to run 2 load balanced Mid-Tier servers each with Quad Xeon
Intel based processors with 16GB of RAM using Windows 2003 64-bit as the
OS and Tomcat as the JVM. We can only use Windows server so UNIX and
Solaris are out of the question.

 

We plan to deploy the Mid-Tier to out customer base as part of a
front-end customer support website where customers can submit and update
their own tickets. We plan to scale the aforementioned server
configuration out to about 20,000 customers.

 

Will the 2 Web Servers support that type of environment? Also, with that
many customers to be supported could those 2 servers also handle another
100 licensed Support Staff?

 

Are their any other options?

 

Thanks.

 

 

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