Cool. Then when the Pinkertons come to bust us up, you can fend them off while we run away!
--Tim ----- Original Message ---- From: David.M Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2008 12:06:36 PM Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Salary in Bay Area I've had my nose broken a few times... can I be a union "boss"? David M Clark Remedy Programmer/Analyst >>> Howard Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/6/2008 11:02 AM >>> Susan, The first item we need to address is how much we want to charge for dues. hbr On 8/6/08, Susan Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ** I like that ... an activist in the group !!! > > Susan > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Howard Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> ** Maybe we need to form a union to keep our rates up to what they should >> be. >> >> hbr >> >> >> On 8/6/08, Tortolero, Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> ** >>> >>> Shawn, Right ON!.... >>> >>> Remedy peeps…good Remedy peeps should NOT devalue themselves…if you are >>> willing to take 50-60 an hour you are screwing everyone by giving away your >>> HARD earned money and devaluing our profession. The bar should be set at 100 >>> minimum an hour. And Shawn is COMPLETELY correct about that 15%, in fact I >>> go 12% tops. Anything more then that and you are getting robbed. It's not >>> like we don't get 10-15 calls a week with job offers…we are needed and will >>> be needed...set the standard, maintain the standard. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> -j >>> >>> >>> >>> *Joe Tortolero* >>> >>> *Remedy Consultant* >>> >>> *Desk - 561-682-2780* >>> >>> *Cell - 561-665-1363* >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> >>> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Pierson, Shawn >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:11 PM >>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>> *Subject:* Re: Salary in Bay Area >>> >>> >>> >>> That's strange but it makes sense that the bay area would pay less than >>> the rest of the country due to an overabundance of Remedy people. You can >>> probably get six figures as a Remedy developer with more than ten years just >>> about anywhere in the U.S. if you are working on ITSM, although no person >>> with that much experience should even be supporting a home grown system for >>> less than $80k/year anywhere. You can get that much at a job in Oklahoma or >>> Ohio, which have much lower costs of living than the bay area. It's all >>> about supply and demand though, so if you want to be paid well you have to >>> live somewhere that has very few Remedy people available, and a lot of >>> companies making decent money so they can pay a decent salary too. >>> >>> >>> >>> As far as consulting, with 10 years of experience I would suggest looking >>> at a minimum of $125/hour. I know BMC charges twice that for their senior >>> people, and a lot of the major Remedy consulting firms charge similar >>> rates. Any consulting firm that keeps more than 15% or $15/hour from your >>> rate (depending on whether you are making more or less than $100/hr) is >>> keeping too much. When I first did consulting I was ripped off a few times >>> because I went through too many layers, where you have a small consulting >>> firm taking 15%, who has a deal with a larger consulting firm taking 15%, >>> who then deals directly with the client. In fact, I remember working with a >>> guy who was being paid less than $40/hour while the client was paying >>> $150/hour only because he had three or four consulting firms in the middle >>> who each took their cut. When consulting, always ask who the direct client >>> is, and if they refuse to tell you or if they tell you the name of another >>> consulting company, don't let them submit your information to the client. >>> >>> >>> >>> Shawn Pierson >>> >>> >>> __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" >>> html___ __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the >>> Answers Are" html___ >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Howard Richter >> Re d Hat Certified Technician >> CompTIA Linux+ Certified >> ITIL Foundation Certified >> E-Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> LinkedIn Profile = http://www.linkedin.com/in/hbr4270 __Platinum Sponsor: >> www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ > > > > __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" > html___ > -- Howard Richter Red Hat Certified Technician CompTIA Linux+ Certified ITIL Foundation Certified E-Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile = http://www.linkedin.com/in/hbr4270 _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
