I feel that I should "appoint" that position... David M Clark Remedy Programmer/Analyst
>>> Howard Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/6/2008 12:32 PM >>> So we have a pres, who will be the Treasurer. On 8/6/08, Tim Widowfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ** Cool. Then when the Pinkertons come to bust us up, you can fend them > off while we run away! > > --Tim > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: David.M Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2008 12:06:36 PM > Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Salary in Bay Area > > I've had my nose broken a few times... can I be a union "boss"? > > David M Clark > Remedy Programmer/Analyst > > > >>> Howard Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/6/2008 11:02 AM >>> > Susan, > > The first item we need to address is how much we want to charge for > dues. > > hbr > > On 8/6/08, Susan Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > ** I like that ... an activist in the group !!! > > > > Susan > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Howard Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > >> ** Maybe we need to form a union to keep our rates up to what they > should > >> be. > >> > >> hbr > >> > >> > >> On 8/6/08, Tortolero, Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> ** > >>> > >>> Shawn, Right ON!.... > >>> > >>> Remedy peeps…good Remedy peeps should NOT devalue themselves…if you > are > >>> willing to take 50-60 an hour you are screwing everyone by giving > away your > >>> HARD earned money and devaluing our profession. The bar should be > set at 100 > >>> minimum an hour. And Shawn is COMPLETELY correct about that 15%, in > fact I > >>> go 12% tops. Anything more then that and you are getting robbed. > It's not > >>> like we don't get 10-15 calls a week with job offers…we are needed > and will > >>> be needed...set the standard, maintain the standard. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Thank you, > >>> > >>> -j > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *Joe Tortolero* > >>> > >>> *Remedy Consultant* > >>> > >>> *Desk - 561-682-2780* > >>> > >>> *Cell - 561-665-1363* > >>> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ** > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Pierson, Shawn > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:11 PM > >>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > >>> *Subject:* Re: Salary in Bay Area > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> That's strange but it makes sense that the bay area would pay less > than > >>> the rest of the country due to an overabundance of Remedy people. > You can > >>> probably get six figures as a Remedy developer with more than ten > years just > >>> about anywhere in the U.S. if you are working on ITSM, although no > person > >>> with that much experience should even be supporting a home grown > system for > >>> less than $80k/year anywhere. You can get that much at a job in > Oklahoma or > >>> Ohio, which have much lower costs of living than the bay area. > It's all > >>> about supply and demand though, so if you want to be paid well you > have to > >>> live somewhere that has very few Remedy people available, and a lot > of > >>> companies making decent money so they can pay a decent salary too. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> As far as consulting, with 10 years of experience I would suggest > looking > >>> at a minimum of $125/hour. I know BMC charges twice that for their > senior > >>> people, and a lot of the major Remedy consulting firms charge > similar > >>> rates. Any consulting firm that keeps more than 15% or $15/hour > from your > >>> rate (depending on whether you are making more or less than > $100/hr) is > >>> keeping too much. When I first did consulting I was ripped off a > few times > >>> because I went through too many layers, where you hav e a small > consulting > >>> firm taking 15%, who has a deal with a larger consulting firm > taking 15%, > >>> who then deals directly with the client. In fact, I remember > working with a > >>> guy who was being paid less than $40/hour while the client was > paying > >>> $150/hour only because he had three or four consulting firms in the > middle > >>> who each took their cut. When consulting, always ask who the > direct client > >>> is, and if they refuse to tell you or if they tell you the name of > another > >>> consulting company, don't let them submit your information to the > client. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Shawn Pierson > >>> > >>> > >>> __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers > Are" > >>> html___ __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the > >>> Answers Are" html___ > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Howard Richter > >> Re > d Hat Certified Technician > >> CompTIA Linux+ Certified > >> ITIL Foundation Certified > >> E-Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/> Profile = > http://www.linkedin.com/in/hbr4270 __Platinum > Sponsor: > >> www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ > > > > > > > > __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers > Are" > > html___ > > > > > > -- > Howard Richter > Red Hat Certified Technician > CompTIA Linux+ Certified > ITIL Foundation Certified > E-Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] > LinkedIn Profile = http://www.linkedin.com/in/hbr4270 > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" > __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" > html___ > -- Howard Richter Red Hat Certified Technician CompTIA Linux+ Certified ITIL Foundation Certified E-Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile = http://www.linkedin.com/in/hbr4270 _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
